Mark London Interview - Battlecats and Revolution 9

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Your ears do not deceive you. You have just entered the Cryptid Creator Corner brought to you by your friends at Comic Book Yeti.

[00:00:07] [SPEAKER_00]: So without further ado, let's get on to the interview.

[00:00:10] [SPEAKER_03]: You ever been to a martial arts tournament like this?

[00:00:14] [SPEAKER_04]: When I was a kid there was a used bookstore in town. I begged my mom to drop me off all the time.

[00:00:18] [SPEAKER_04]: They had a loose stack of comics that I used to thumb through searching for secret gold. One day

[00:00:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I came across Daredevil 189. That's that Frank Miller cover that's iconic with DD flying through the air in a hail of arrows.

[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_04]: The book was a complete snobber knocker throwdown with the hand and stick sacrifices himself to save Matt at the end.

[00:00:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Ever since that moment, I have loved martial arts comic book.

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_04]: So when fellow Yeti Alex Green reached out about his Kickstarter project from within I was excited to find out more about it.

[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a 240 page martial arts revenge graphic novel about a slave fighting his way through a deadly tournament

[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_04]: where the rules shift according to the whims of Eugastic, a tyrannical emperor

[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_04]: full of high impact fight sequences assured to delight any fan of action focused fiction

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Artist Renzo Podesta kills the Zandra. See what I did there and the whole project is already complete

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_04]: So the hardest part the one that makes you wait is already done bounce on over to Kickstarter and search for from within

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[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Y'all Jimmy the chaos goblin strikes again

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I should have known better than a mention that was working on my DC universe meets Ravenloft hybrid D&D campaign on social media

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_04]: My bad. He goes and tags a bunch of comics creators

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_04]: We know and now I have to get it in gear and whip this campaign into shape so we could start playing

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Another friend chimes in are you gonna make baps?

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_04]: It's fair to say it's been a while since I put something together

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_04]: So I guess

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[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I think I'm gonna make Jimmy play a goblin warlock just to get even

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello and welcome to comic book yeti's cryptid creator corner

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I am one of your hosts Jimmy Gispero and I'm very excited

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I have a returning guest to the podcast somebody who I think had such a great time that they're they're willing to come back

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And talk to me again, and that's always nice, but

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_01]: You know that if you've listened to this podcast and I am a huge fan of mad cave studios

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I've had quite a few mad cave

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_01]: creators on

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_01]: This past year in particular and I am pleased to welcome back to the podcast the CEO

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_01]: and chief creative officer also a

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Prolific writer in his own right, and he's here to talk about all things mad cave

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_01]: But please welcome to the podcast mark London mark. How are you doing tonight? Good good

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Better now that I'm here with you Jimmy. Yes. I'm a customer, and I really really love talking to you so

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_03]: As soon as you just send me that hey you want to be in the show

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Like of course, I mean so I will always be here as long as you have me. Well, thank you very much

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I really appreciate that and yeah mad cave there their 10th anniversary year

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And what a year it has been and listeners of this podcast, you know frequent listeners know that I have

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I've talked a lot about mad cave and

[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_01]: You know in the interest in full affair disclosure

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You guys do not pay me to do that. I do it because I like your comics. I tell it

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I I say that up front. I'm

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just really such a fan and that's really the joy for me of having this podcast and

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You know being able to do this because you know growing up as a kid

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And we probably touched on this the first time you were on reading comics and

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You know the rare opportunity you would have to talk to somebody who made the thing who?

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_01]: wrote the wrote it or drew it that you love was so rare and

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_01]: You know nowadays with social media and and

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_01]: conventions, it's easier to connect with folks and I really love being able to get on and

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And talk to some of the people that make the comic books that I have loved this year and in particular

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_01]: With mad cave this year. I mean just really

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Firing on all cylinders for the 10th anniversary year

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Whether or not it's been Morningstar when the blood has dried or Dick Tracy or gotcha man

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean there has just been so many that have been just

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_01]: truly great

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_01]: like comics like not only fun licensed properties but

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Really new inventive stories as well and

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Especially with like Dick Tracy. It wasn't just like hey we can do Dick Tracy

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's just let's just do something just to do Dick Tracy. No, you got Alex Segura Michael Maurici

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_01]: What is it a Jorge Borges who is doing the correct?

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Wanted and it's just been phenomenal so in any event that that's my impromptu I guess mad cave

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Commercial unintended. I just wanted to express my gratitude because I've

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Had a great time. I've had a great time celebrating mad cave with you. I

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Love it. I love it and and again

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_03]: It's it's it's so humbling to hear you talk like this about mad cave and everything that we're that we've been doing and also the talent and

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_03]: the creators and everybody involved because

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_03]: It's it's it's it's humbling. Thank you Jimmy for those kind words. I mean

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: before we get into some of the other stuff where we're going to talk about like the new underworld universe and

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_01]: The battle cats heroes of Val d'Aria omnibus Kickstarter

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess I just you know going through all that but really ask you

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_01]: What was kind of the approach to mad caves tenth year?

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Like what was what was kind of the plan and now that were

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You know nine months or three quarters of the way through the year like how have how do you feel about everything?

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_01]: What's the vibe at mad cave?

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's it's great. It's to be honest again. It's surreal

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_03]: when you start this sort of

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_03]: projects which really are are

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_03]: You don't know where you know where you start you have no idea what you're gonna end and

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_03]: just

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_03]: being able to get here

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_03]: To bring on more people that that ten years ago

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_03]: You might think that we're

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_03]: unattainable

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Just to write a book or to be able to publish them

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's great when we when we started mad cave with my wife

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I know that at first we did want to have homegrown stuff. We wanted to only have mad cave studios

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Properties but the reason for that was that I know how hard it is to make comic books

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And I didn't want the responsibility at first of having to

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Take somebody else's baby and kind of like put it out into the world and publish it and market it the right way

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's why it really really took us a long time to really understand how the sausage is made

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Before we could actually take a shot and be like, okay now you're giving us your baby

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_03]: We're really gonna treat it. We kind is we're really gonna see a shine because we know exactly how hard it is

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_03]: So I think the ten years it's it's a milestone

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that everybody in the company is it's is floored by the reception of the fans of the reception of

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Mutuals within the industry that they know how hard it is to make a comic book publisher work

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_03]: and

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm over the moon Jimmy. I'm over the moon because it's it's

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we've been doing great work in in an organic manner and

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_03]: That's the best price the best price is just the the cool reaction from people from the fans and

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Seeing that we are continuing to grow. So so I think that we're doing something, right?

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, I mean, I know I I mean I I don't know why everyone listens to this this podcast

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I hope they great. No, come on. Well, no

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I I hope that they you know are looking for an interest an interesting interview to talk about the comics but

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, sometimes I like to do get you know a little bit inside baseball

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess you know in terms of how the sausage is made but one of the things I do want to say is that

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_01]: In all the different made creators. I've had come on

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_01]: that everyone has been so complimentary of the company and

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_01]: you know you you

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Even in the past few years you've heard horror stories of different publishers with predatory contracts or

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_01]: books not coming out on time or not marketing the books and

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Really do think it is a credit to the company that I I don't haven't heard any of that

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, not just on the podcast

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_01]: But even after the recordings done and I'm like hey, what's the real deal on mad cave?

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And everyone is I have not heard a bad word said about by any creator about working with the company

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Your your books come out on time, you know

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is a huge thing because when you have so many things drawing people's focus television movies comic books books

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_01]: tiktok

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_01]: When a book comes out and four or five months later

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_01]: It was already it was solicited and it doesn't come out that hurts that momentum

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: It's so it's it's important not just to make great stories

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_01]: But to actually get the stuff into the the the local comic shops on time and to market it

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, your team at mad cave has from my perspective has been so great to work with

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Frank in particular at mad cave who sends me stuff to read in advance

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Helps coordinate these podcast interviews and that's like a huge thing because I I want to talk to people

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And if they want to talk and get the word out it's so great to have a connection and

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_01]: all of that all that other stuff that isn't just the writing and the art is

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_01]: and coloring and lettering and editing is is also hugely important and

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just really impressed with what everything that I've been seeing out of out of mad cave. So, you know, no, it's not a question

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Something I wanted to say while you're on here because I think it's a real credit to you your wife your team

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_01]: That you know from not from somebody who does this

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Does these interviews and is also a fan and a reader. It's it's very much appreciated and it cannot be

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_01]: easy in you know today's

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Climate to continue to produce and to continue to

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_01]: You know really have folks that want to have a mad cave book

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's awesome

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm. No, thank you for saying that

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_03]: You're absolutely right

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean it's the only reason where we are here is because of our team because mad caves

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Professionals are the best in the industry. I mean, I'm not afraid to say that they're super committed

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_03]: They're the prophecy their professionalism is is it's above it goes above and beyond

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean really really talented but passionate folks

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that if you don't have those two things in order, I mean nothing that you do is really gonna succeed

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_03]: So a lot of the people that we have at mad cave

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_03]: You mentioned Frank Frank is a person that I'm gonna tell you a little secret here. Hopefully nobody's listening but

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Frank has been five years with the company and the reason why Frank is working with us is because

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_03]: he

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Spammed us like you have no idea

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_03]: He sent

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Constant emails like a and then this is this is again five years ago

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that we had an accomplice and we hadn't really gotten to where we were weird today

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_03]: But Frank was like, oh my god, this is this is something that I really want to do

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_03]: This is my passion this and that and a couple of people in the office. They were like, okay, dude

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_03]: We keep on receiving this email from this Frank Silva

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean what's what's up with that and it was like how many emails that he has sent

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I don't know probably like 30 40 emails and I'm like, you know what?

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I need to meet him. I really want to meet him

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_03]: So we said an interview and when I was like, okay, dude, what's your deal? What's up because somebody that persistent?

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean has to be amazing

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_03]: So was that and we started talking it was like, you know what you're high and Frank has been with us

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean five years so wow

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that I think that a lot of things that that that really have happened with with mad cave is that

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I also started this with Chris Fernandez

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Ten years ago. He was one of the early persons that actually joined me in this this whole roller coaster and I

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_03]: One of the things that we we don't come from the industry. Yeah, me we we don't come from the industry

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_03]: We're just passionate fans that really know

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_03]: What it takes in order to be

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Notice out there in other fields. So we were like, okay, why don't we apply all that to comic books?

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Why don't we apply all that to publishing? So I think that the way that we've always tried to approach mad cave is like

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Taking all that bad

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Juju all those bad experiences that you keep hearing is like no that this is this is not gonna be

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_03]: The way that we're gonna do things at mad cave. We we we're definitely gonna take a different approach

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_03]: we're gonna treat everybody like family and

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_03]: We want to really publish

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_03]: The best possible product out there

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes we strive for perfection. Sometimes I mean we don't hit the mark

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Believe me nothing. I don't think that any creator out there goes out like or any Hollywood

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Big time producer director was like, okay, we're gonna make a 300 million dollar flock

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay guys and I think that nobody goes out with with that mentality

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_03]: So sure and we do try to actually put our best in everything that we're doing and there even some books

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_03]: when you're talking about like okay late books or or or

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_03]: How is our commitment to being being on time is like sometimes

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_03]: we've dealt with with

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_03]: creators on the back end that don't deliver and sometimes I mean books have been like

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Three issues in three issues in and we prefer to kill the book start over

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_03]: We don't care then then instead of just like hey, you know what? We're gonna publish this

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna be late who cares everybody does it. I think that we have to push ourselves

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of people might be like well everybody's late or or you know what is no big deal one or two weeks

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean you commit to something you better deliver. That's why when we try to open our mouth

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Um with something it's because it's ready

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_03]: It's because it's really ready to go the underworld

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_03]: That I've been working with chris fernandez and and all the artists and all the team has been ready like for a year now

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_03]: So, oh wow

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_03]: This is this is something that that he was like, okay ready to go and we're continuing like already with the second phase and

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_03]: You know this jimmy

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_03]: comic books as

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_03]: People that don't know might think that they're simple and they're easy to make

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Um everything that you see from mad cave. It's it's it's been in the works for two years

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_03]: We we already we have internal meetings and we're already talking about 2026 2027

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's just so much behind everything

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_03]: That you have to really try to pay attention. So I just tried to to to really pay attention to

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_03]: What do you guys out there want?

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_03]: We are really going to try to deliver our best and hopefully that will show and you will see where we're all about

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that that has been a testament to

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_03]: 10 years making comic

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Making comics publishing

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Graphic novels graphic storytelling

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I always thought people will not in the comic business as mark here winner president always told me like you're not a comic book publisher

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_03]: You're a graphic

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Publisher your graphic storyteller. You're so so you're like you're absolutely right. Yes

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_03]: We publish graphic stories

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I love that. Um, well you mentioned underworld. So let's let's talk about I guess the underworld universe

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Um as we were recording this and I'm not sure exactly when this is going to come out, but um

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Won't be that long from when we're recording it, but uh revolution nine. That's the that's the first story

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Or the first

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_01]: comic they're going to be four issue series. It's revolution nine

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_01]: um

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_01]: In september 25th in october

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to be hour of the wolf and then in november exit city and they're

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_01]: My understanding and I want to hear from you, but you can they're all they all can be standalone

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But what I saw was they are all going to lead up to next year

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_01]: a um

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Like an endless night crossover

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Of the the three series and and you're you've taken up writing duties for

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_01]: All three all three new series. Is that right?

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_03]: That is right. That is right jimmy and again it it's uh, please go go ahead. I'm sorry

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I I want to I just you know, I want to hear from so what what can we expect?

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_01]: What can listeners and fans of mad cave and maybe some new converts expect with

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_01]: You know this first series revolution nine and what can you what can you tell us about the underworld universe?

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_01]: altogether

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_03]: The underworld universe it's it's it's a homage really to our 10 year anniversary. It's it's

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_03]: It's really everything that I set out to do 10 years ago when I when I wanted to publish

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh big bombastic widescreen stories. Um, that was really mad cave's inception being like, okay

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_03]: You won this big stories and that's why I really

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Grew up with it. Okay

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Marvel summer events the crossovers like that was so cool

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_03]: But you would only see it with a big two or you would see it with with other type of company

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_03]: So I was like, okay, you know what and mad cave we try to take a different approach

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_03]: We want to take storytelling. We even want to push this. Why don't we

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Do this in a very

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_03]: In a very mad cave kind of way which at the end of the day is that is is going to a route

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Of being like, okay revolution nine is assassins. It's it's secret societies an assassin on the run

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_03]: betrayed by the organization that actually created her

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_03]: um

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_03]: full on action spy thriller then we got hour of the wolf which is a

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Time traveler

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Monster hunter I'm trying to think if I'm gonna say too much to spoil but no

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Time traveling monster

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Actually just just goes into the different times in in in our timeline or different timelines for that matter

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_03]: To just like solve creepy mysteries that happen between 3 a.m. And 4 a.m. And he only has like one hour to correctly

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Save the day. So in this case is it's a family that is being hunted

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_03]: By a painting and he has like one hour to try to save them

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And then we have exit city which is um

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_03]: man-made island 200 miles away from the coast of california where they where it was made by a bunch of billionaires

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_03]: and its police is being um

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_03]: controlled by by ai and is being policed by algorithms

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_03]: So you have these two detectives that actually are really

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Deep in the in the weeds of of trying to solve this this

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_03]: This hideous crime from somebody or something that doesn't appear to be human. So

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_03]: All these three ish all these three series are basically just gonna

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Have like their own conclusion to it their first like

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_03]: uh

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_03]: beginning middle and end but then the the big surprise is that they're we're gonna cross them over

[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Next year again with four issues summer blockbuster 2025 in a crossover called endless night

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_03]: So we have this this three series when they're coming out and hopefully i mean they basically just

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_03]: explode uh

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Next year and and again, we're building more

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_03]: For that universe and we're building more for for the fans and it's gonna be uh

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_03]: It's it's uh again. It's an experiment. I think that it's a fun experiment

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_03]: um

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_03]: People nowadays. I mean we have our comics in

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_03]: In shore forms in and what do I mean by that you only have one issue?

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_03]: um

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_03]: One shot or you have a mini series of four issues or five issues

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_03]: All those ongoing series are gone. Um very few are still

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_03]: With us

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_03]: But this is a way that you can actually prolong and you can actually tell a better or a bigger story. Um

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_03]: In my mind, that's what i'm trying to that's what i'm trying to hit. Yeah with the underworld universe

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Nice. Um, yeah, I mean all the teases that i've seen so far look great. I think i'm most intrigued

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_01]: With exit city. I really like the cover that I saw

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, which I think is carl mustered and um, uh, david barron

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And correct just I think it was teased or

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_01]: At least the little blurb under the cover picture that I saw online was like

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_01]: hard boiled sci-fi

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Detective series and i'm like oh those are

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_01]: That's me. That's

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Signed me up

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm most curious about that

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's great jimmy because again, that's also all the things that I like so so it's like, okay

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_03]: How can we play again?

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_03]: how much to

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_03]: mad cave

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_03]: All these themes all this genres that they really make

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_03]: great stories and

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Then and I guess that underworld is like, okay, let's put a lot of this in into a blender and then let's see what comes out of it so

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know so so far so good. We'll see we were

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're just we're just starting so buckle up for this one

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_01]: No, i'm excited. I mean as we like uh, you know tomorrow

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Is uh

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_01]: starts baltimore comicon which my brother bobby bobby

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_01]: The cryptic crater corners number one most dedicated fan bobby listened to all my episodes and bobby and i are heading

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be in baltimore friday and saturday

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_01]: mad cave had a great presence there last year and I saw it looks like mad cave is going to be there again this year with some really fun

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_01]: signing so i'm uh, i'm like i'm excited to visit the mad cave booth tomorrow and saturday and um

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Say hi to some say hi to some some former

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_01]: The guests of the podcast. I think I saw that joe carral is supposed to do a signing so I just had joe one recently

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_01]: um

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's awesome. All right, let's take a quick break

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_04]: After a string of unexplained disappearances in the southern parts of the united states retired detective clint searches for his white trash brother

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_04]: While searching for him he ends up being abducted by aliens

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_04]: He is now in the arena for big guns stupid rednecks

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_04]: An intergalactic cable's newest hit show which puts him and other humans in laser gun gladiatorial combat

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And his brother is the reigning champion with 27 kills

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_04]: That's the premise for a new book from banda barns big guns stupid rednecks

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I got a chance to see an advanced preview of this book and being from the south honestly

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I was a bit skeptical going in but they won me over and nothing is more powerful than an initially skeptic convert in my book

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_04]: In jimmy's words big guns stupid rednecks is many things, but it isn't subtle

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_04]: It tells you exactly what it is up front

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Then it delivers with a great premise fantastic art and a whole mess of fun

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I had a great time reading big guns stupid rednecks

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_04]: And what I thought was going to be an indictment of redneck culture quickly showed it was actually a love letter

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_04]: A family mystery brother pitted against brother aliens fighting for profit in a big arena

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_04]: This truly has it all issue one is out already

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_04]: But you can still pick up a copy on the banda barns website

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_04]: And current issues are available via your previews or lunar order form or just ask your lcs. Don't miss

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's get back to the show

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_01]: underworld universe

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You got these these three series

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And all hidden towards this endless night crossover in 2025 a big huge undertaking

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_01]: and also

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Another series that you had written an earlier series battle cats is now going to have mad caves

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I think first Kickstarter

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Battle cats heroes of aldaria an omnibus

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_01]: um

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Which you know

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_01]: What made I guess mad cave or you know want to go

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_01]: The Kickstarter route with something like the battle cats omnibus

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Great question

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Since we're a comic book publisher

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Mark Irwin don't don't quote me on this but again battle cats was our was our first comic book battle cats was um

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_03]: What's really what also?

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Putting to high gear the whole mad cave studios

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_03]: um publishing gig and

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Battle cats at the beginning. I mean we were pushing it so hard that when we got when we would talk to retailers

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_03]: We would get to conventions. I mean we were not mad. We were the battle cats guys

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_03]: That's how that's how they actually that's something well. Oh those are the battle cats. No, we're mad caves too

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, you're the battle cats guy and me like no, but so again

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_03]: It's I think that it that it's a way of just like celebrating like a first title, you know, very beautiful

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_03]: um omnibus

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_03]: absolute collected hardcover edition

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Um having some great great talent behind some of the covers in church. Oh, we're gonna have some uh damp and ocean sketches

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean we're just it will come out

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully by the time that um that um this is live

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_03]: The the kickstart is gonna be out already so we can talk that ampanos is gonna be like having some um giving out some um

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_03]: some sketch

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Some sketches from from our feeling warriors. Um, also the music that that that is gonna be it's a full

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a full soundtrack of um

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_03]: glorious epic medieval music that that we actually made at mad cave 10 years ago because

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_03]: We actually went all in with the whole battle cats. So so it's so why Kickstarter because there's a lot of um

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Fans out there that actually tried to that actually

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Want this type of product some fans that actually have not heard of mad cave

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_03]: So I think that it's also a great opportunity to tap into that

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_03]: audience and try to expand a little bit we're doing and

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_03]: My reasoning behind a lot of things jamie is that the more eyes we can put on comments

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_03]: The more eyes we can put on our publishing houses or everything that we're doing

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean they're better for everyone if we can really really push more people to read more people to fall in love with the

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_03]: comic so Kickstarter has always been also a very big pond of um

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Of creators and for fans that really really crave this high quality special product

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_03]: And also the retailers are gonna have um a stab at it. We're also gonna publish it

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_03]: But Kickstarter is a great way to actually make a campaign

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_03]: surrounding your company

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_03]: celebrating content

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_03]: That was that actually kick started

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_03]: of unintended

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Of what we did or what we started 10 years ago

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's the reason why we decided to go with uh with Kickstarter and battle cats

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I appreciate that and I mean sometimes you'll see talk on you know

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_01]: On social media when a bigger like when a bigger publisher goes to Kickstarter and you'll see like

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_01]: There's there's been some negative backlash or negative talk about oh, well, you're

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you're an established publisher

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, why are you going to?

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_01]: You know Kickstarter that's more like indie creator, but I've never been down on it

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm more of uh along the lines of you know arising

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_01]: What is it arising tide?

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Raisins all ships type of thing

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Um because I think I don't know

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't study the industry. I don't look at sales numbers

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a fan and I do this podcast

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know what the Venn diagram is

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Of people that just go in a comic book shop folks that buy digitally online and and folks that like Kickstarter

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I I don't know where those those three different circles of comic book fans converge

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_01]: so I I'm more of the mindset that

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You know mad caves

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Established been doing it for 10 years

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_01]: But to now take something to Kickstarter to try and you know the fans who love mad cave and know about it

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Still have access to it folks that buy indie stuff and creator

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You know own stuff on

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_01]: On Kickstarter

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Can now get open to that idea

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Um

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I just think it's more of a win for for everybody. I'm hoping it is you know

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_01]: hugely successful and

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_01]: All the artwork from it that I've seen looks

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Gorgeous. I love the idea of like an action, you know a soundtrack with it too

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_01]: That's just the fun and different and exciting. So yeah, I'm I'm I'm hopeful it does really well for you guys

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's great

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, Jimmy. Yes. I mean you nailed it. You're absolutely right

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of people is like oh, but why are they doing a Kickstarter? I mean they're a publisher

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh comic books unfortunately, um

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Especially in this age that we live now. I mean they had been losing a little bit of his luster

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_03]: um because it it's sometimes an older crowd and because it comes out with

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_03]: It comes out from a from

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Older guys like me that grew up with this stuff. I mean newer generations. Um, unfortunately have not been

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_03]: So exposed to comic books as we were when we were growing up. I mean and I blame

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_03]: uh

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Instagram and tech talk and

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Netflix and all those things

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_03]: People read for god's sake. So but but but yeah, it's it's it's

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_03]: People have now sensory overload

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_03]: And we're all glued to our freaking phones right now that there's no time to enjoy. Okay a good book or a good, um

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Graphic novel or a good show or animation everything just kind of steers one way or the other

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_03]: so for us is putting more eyes on the brand more eyes on our content and

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Kickstarter has a fairly

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Interesting fan base that are really really passionate about this stuff. So it's what you were saying

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's it's if you tap into that and it basically just raises the tide then it would just be like oh

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Kickstarter okay mad cave publishing company

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Graphic storytelling comic books. What else is there and they might stumble upon big tracy gatchaman

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_03]: They might stumble upon flash cordon or

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_03]: What you were saying morning star or or a lot of our

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Only creator own work that we're trying to push into the world

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_03]: But a lot of people don't pick up because it's not a well known

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_03]: IP or or I didn't grow up with this stuff. So

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_03]: When you see like something like again

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't have anything against DC or marvel, but he's like okay spider-man versus something that I

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Have never heard of. Um, yeah, it looks pretty. It looks like a well made product competitive

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_03]: But this is a spider-man and I only have I only have six dollars in my pocket

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_03]: What am I gonna choose so the mentality? So we're gonna so we always try to

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Really really think hard

[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Um and long about like, okay

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_03]: How do we actually try to entice and put more eyes on everything that we're doing? Yeah

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, yeah, I get that. Um, but one of the things you know, you you know, kind of tongue in cheek

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_01]: You know said about you blame instagram and tiktok and and netflix and all those things but like, um, you know

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It does seem though that uh

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_01]: You know sometimes like younger kids y a graphic novels like are still doing really well, especially in the book market things like

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_01]: web tunes and tapas have really taken off. Um, and

[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_01]: You know

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_01]: My daughter's 11 she reads comic books, but she also has really gotten into manga and manga is still

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Is hugely popular

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_01]: as well, um

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And I know that in speaking of manga that mad cave also, I guess recently

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Acquired or started. I'm not I'm not sure that the beginnings of it

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_01]: But Nakama press which is I guess going to go like a mad cave like a manga imprint

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Correct. So what was um, I guess what what can we expect from like the mad cave kind of manga imprint?

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Like how is that gonna work within what mad cave does now?

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_03]: again when you are a publisher, um, you need to publish and

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of the great. So so that's like, okay

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_03]: but so so we when you have

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Something already built and already put in place something like mad cave. Um, that is basically your your r rated imprint

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_03]: If we're going to put into certain terms

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_03]: um, but then we also have maverick, which is your

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_03]: YA imprint and then that's the reason why we acquired

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Paper cuts two years ago

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_03]: You want to have years ago because it's your middle grade imprint

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_03]: So you're basically just feeding already that machine that you already built

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_03]: So you're just putting more content into different markets

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure, everything has to be kind of like analyzed and everything has to be like really really taken care of everything needs a strategy everything needs

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_03]: A great direction

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_03]: With their marketing with the editors with the whole mumbo jumbo that we can we could have a

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_03]: 10 10 hour podcast. I mean just talking about this stuff and I love talking about this stuff

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_03]: but

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_03]: With nakama press we also identify like I've always when we started mad cave

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I've always thought I will I always saw

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_03]: The publishing graphic

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_03]: storytelling gig as a four legged chair

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_03]: So I was like, okay the r rated imprint the young adult imprint the middle grade imprint and the wild card was always the

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_03]: The manga because like huge jimmy. I also have I have three kids

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Two older kids already in college and I have a 13 year old and I've seen how he has with all of them

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I basically got them to really fall in love with

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Reading through comic books. So I know exactly how important this is for kids and for newer generations

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_03]: So trying to

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure my my youngest he loves manga. He loves. I mean why is stuff so

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_03]: This is more like, okay. This is what I want to feed this is this is our

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Responsibility as a publisher and we need to actually flesh out everything that we are doing

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_03]: We are maximizing everything that we put in place

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that nowadays especially with with the way that the market

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Is is behaving and everything all the challenges that publishers are facing that you cannot just go

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_03]: At it for one thing

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_03]: It's it's not gonna be viable

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_03]: So the more that you can actually feed that machine within your same

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_03]: ecosystem

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Because you have to print so you deal with your printers. You have your marketing you have your designers

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_03]: You have everything you're basically feeding everything through the same funnel as long as you are treating everything

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_03]: As its own unit as his own business unit. I mean, I'd like to think that you would be

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Better for it in in the end

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_03]: So the reason for going after Nakama was because it's an untapped market for us within our publishing

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Business plan our 10-year business plan which has been coming

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_03]: To fruition little little by little with all the different targets and all the different segments that we really really want to hit

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_03]: That has been our madness. There's a method to the madness

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it seems like you know because you know also recently was the the

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_01]: amazing comics news with teaming with Joe cassata and

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's is it pronounced to pui which is a french

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_01]: To pui which is a french publisher

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_01]: um

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean it it's

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_01]: This 10th year. I feel like

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_01]: is been a very aggressive strategy by by may had cave and um

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It it's

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Impressive the quality of comic books

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_01]: But I just kind of also been impressed that all of these moves that that and these announcements from may had cave that

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_01]: There also hasn't been like a rush just to

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_01]: With the regular publishing to just you know flood

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_01]: The market with let's let's just put anything out like I really feel like there's been a lot going on behind the scenes some big announcements

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_01]: That we've just mentioned

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And also still some really you know, I looked to my left at my to be read pile and

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I've read most of the mad cave stuff. I bought so um, but the quality has still

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Been maintained, which is you know, you have pretty

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_01]: an impressive feat I think um

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_01]: What kind of what was the impetus uh, and what well what can we expect with the partnership with uh with amazing comics?

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Like what what is that going to give?

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_01]: readers that

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, uh isn't already out there

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm. Well also with amazing comics. I think that amazing comics is the cherry on top or mad cave

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_03]: hitting 10 years because it's bringing joe kesata

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Legendary creator been around them in forever

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm such a huge fan and when we started talking to joe and again amazing deal

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Well came about again a year and a half ago almost two years ago. Jimmy. It's it's been in the work so

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Being able to actually sit down with joe with that

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Calibre of an artist or somebody that has been around for so much and has done so much for industry and that he really wants to

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Partner with you bringing again his baby, which is amazing comics and be like, okay. You guys are gonna

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Warden my stuff and you guys are really going to push my stuff

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_03]: um

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_03]: It's it's

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_03]: It's very very humbling and it's amazing for us

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a testament to everything that we've been trying to do and it's because of what things that you just said

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean because it's it's the quality is how we see things

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_03]: um

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_03]: We I really can't talk too much about amazing right now because we are will be

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_03]: displaying something

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_03]: uh amazing

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_03]: During during new york comic con so we're gonna have more news for you

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_03]: But but yes, I know for by being able to bring dupe to the table which again is one of the oldest

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Publishers in europe in france

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_03]: um to actually partner with mad cave a fairly

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Young company in the publishing field of graphic storytelling and

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Comment books and everything that we're doing

[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean for us that there's there's there's no better prize than that

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And and we feel that we have a big responsibility not only with joe

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_03]: But also will do pre to deliver

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_03]: So a lot of the things that we are bringing on board by creating nakama press for example

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_03]: The quality is not good is that is not going to affect the quality of mad cave or maverick or even

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, ricketts if I think that it would just strengthen us in a way that we need to keep up raising the bar

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_01]: constantly well, I um

[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_01]: commend you and the entire team because I just think this has been um

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_01]: As a fan not, you know, I think it has been just a really great year. I have enjoyed

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_01]: so many of the uh the mad cave

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh comic books that I have read and I I've gotten to talk to some, you know

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh listeners if you haven't gone back

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And listen, you know, if you're just coming to the podcast or if you've you know skipped around some episodes

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_01]: That's fine. But um, yeah, I've really gotten a chance to talk to some some great creators and um

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm really excited for I you know what what you have in store for us for the next 10 years mark

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_03]: That's the plan jimmy does that's the plan. I mean I I really need to I think that again

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I I I wake up grateful I

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I praise god every day because um, I think that we're lucky because we're able to do what we do

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_03]: But again, I think that we have a big responsibility

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Um with everything that we're doing and and we just need to keep pushing the bar

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_03]: um treating people right um, we treat everybody as as family and

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully, I mean we can have a a better publisher and uh and a better industry for it

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_03]: so that that's my goal for the next 10 years and and

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Publishing kick ass content

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I well I agree and uh, I I hope that for you and uh everybody else at at mad cave

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh as well mark. Um

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Well like listeners, I'll put I'll put links to everything that I have links to in the in the show notes

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So but make sure you're check out uh revolution nine which will start the underworld

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh universe check out the battle cats kick starter and go check out battle cats

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_01]: If you're not familiar with it is the first series that mad cave put out go check it out

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_01]: if you're curious uh in terms of more of what uh mark

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Has written for for mad cave studios you can go and read wolvenheart nights of the golden sun honor and curse hunt kill repeat

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_01]: um, and then just my uh my own little shout out if uh

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You're coming to this podcast and you wanted to check out some more mad cave

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh comics that you um might not have gotten to hear the episodes on but right out right now

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Dark empty void. We just had zack kaplan on i'm really excited for that the art is chris she and their

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_01]: a phenomenal um

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_01]: gotcha man

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_01]: uh kosher mafia, I really liked morning star

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Um i'm a big fan of zack thompson. He's been on the podcast before you can go check out nature's labyrinth and I think um

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Is uh he is another one out right now too with mad cave. I think the body trade

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the body trade that's that's brand new so there's plenty of stuff to choose from

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh david pepose and alex cormac the devil that wears my face. Um, yeah, so uh, oh and

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_01]: If if you haven't read villainous yet. I was a real big fan of uh villainous. Um, which was uh

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_01]: stony williams, uh, and uh jefferson, uh, said zinsky, uh, but yeah big fan of that one. So

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_01]: That's another my little mad cave

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Plug and it's hey, it's my podcast. I can be a self indulgent as I want

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So thanks listeners and go check it out. Uh, it's I can't wait to run into some mad cave folks

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Tomorrow and saturday as we record this at baltimore comic con

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_01]: um

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Mark thank you so much for your time tonight and kind of getting into it a little bit about

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You know mad caves and uh 10th anniversary year and what you have

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Coming out in the future. I really appreciate your time. Thanks a lot

[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_03]: No, thank you for having me jimmy. It's always a pleasure to talk to you to be able to talk shop. Um, that's that's what I love

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_03]: And um and again, thank you for your kind words and for your love for mad cave. Um

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_03]: That's that's the fuel that that that I need to keep going and and produce great great content and again

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I know that my teen is also going to be super super stoked

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_03]: By all your love and your kind words and and again, that that's what we do it. So

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks a million jimmy

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, thank thank you. Thank you for coming on and uh, yeah, I keep making great comics and I'll keep reading them mark. All right

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, thank you listeners. Thank you so much for listening

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Let me know what it is you're reading. You know find me on uh twitter

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Or tick tock. Let me know what it is you're checking out and um, yeah

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, have a good night. I'll see you next time

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