Superfan Podcast Interview

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And I'm gonna try and keep things going because I have, a little bit different of an episode than what we're used to. I have three hosts, for another podcast, and it's a great podcast. And we're gonna talk all about it, but, I was worried a little bit this is gonna be like herding cats with three or actually, including myself, four dominant podcasting personalities. So we'll we'll see how we do. But we're gonna be talking to the hosts of the super fan podcast, and please welcome, David Hyde, Christian Gossett, and Kristen Simon.

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How's everybody doing today?

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Great. So happy to be here. So nice to be a guest. Yeah. I love it.

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I love being a guest.

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I feel like I can sit back and relax.

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I know.

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No. That that means I have stuff to do. Don't don't do that. Don't relax. You you can't relax at all.

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Well, let's let's talk about it. Let the super fan podcast let listeners know because this is a little bit different than your typical comic book or, you know, even, you know, celebrity interview podcast. And, certainly, I was just promoting my graphic novel that came out a few weeks ago, Penny and the Yeti, and I was I think I was on, like, 28 different podcasts or YouTube shows. And a a lot of them, you're on you know, you talk about comics. You you talk about, the stuff that you're there to promote.

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Some you know, sometimes conversations can take a really fun and and, and and different angle. But I really like, what you guys do for the super fan podcast because you really get the creators that are on there to talk about the things, like, that make them passionate, or that, you know, that they're passionate about. I was listening to the, Erica Henderson one. I, really like, Erica's work, and, it's funny because, I just recently, this past year, started reading the Terry Pratchett Discworld novels as well. And so I was like, oh, well, let me see what you know, I saw that that's what Erica was talking about.

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And it was interesting because, like, Erica had just recently gotten into it as well and read, like, 17 of the, I don't know, 39 or 40 some books in a very short order. It was a fantastic episode. I really enjoyed it.

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Oh, great. I'm glad to hear that. Yeah. You know, it it's really kinda cool because, originally, when we started it, you know, we were just gonna say, hey. You know what?

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Just talk about something that you're a really big fan of. You know? Not your work. You're not promoting anything. You're just here to talk about what you yourself are a fan of.

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And along the way, we discovered that the things that they are a fan of are really what fills their creative well. It's what gives them the passion to do what they do. And and Erica Henderson, in particular, is a perfect example of, you know, things that, you know, I had never read. I never you know, I knew who, of course, Derry Pratchett was, but it really makes you want to read those books, you know, especially because you you can jump in anywhere. And you find out all these things that these guests are into, and it really you know, you you kinda catch on to their fandom.

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And you're like, man, I wanna check that out now. You know? I wanna listen to Roland s Howard. I wanna, you know you know, watch MASH. You know?

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Do some gardening.

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Yeah. Do some gardening. You know? And and it's really kinda funny.

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Be nicer to my dog.

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It's just so infectious. You know, they're so passionate.

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Totally.

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Yeah. So, you know, it's really interesting. You know? I think, I think we're on to something, personally.

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No. No. I definitely think you are. What what do you think has been the most surprising thing? Not necessarily for you to find out about, like, a creator in terms of a particular subject, but when when somebody comes on and they are are getting to talk about something that they love, has there been any, like, surprising discoveries for the three of

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you in talking to these creators? What I love is every one of them has this kind of epiphany on the show. Everyone was like, oh, I hadn't thought of that. You know? Everyone they had this moment where they're like, you know, I might have done this because of that all along, and that's amazing.

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It's amazing to me, and I love that moment. There was a huge one with Stefan Frank. Now this was not one of the ep proper episodes. We did it we do several episodes at conventions as well. In fact, this weekend at Comic Con Revolution, we're doing a Dave Johnson episode.

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And we did Stefan Frank at was that WonderCon? Or is that That

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was Comic Con Revolution

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as well. Too. Yeah. And Stefan, his subject was UFOs. And he didn't realize, like, that he's like, oh, that's My company's name is UFO.

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Remember? It's like Dark Planet. Dark Planet. Dark Dark Planet. Was like, it's all connected.

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It was all connected. He didn't even realize it.

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Didn't even realize it.

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Didn't put it together. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. When when those things happen in in an interview, they're incredible. There's a an interview that I love when Steven Spielberg was on Inside the Actor's Studio with with James Lipton, and they kinda has seemingly has, like, a little bit of a a revelation about close encounters of the the third kind and the characters in it. And it's just kind of amazing to watch, you know, even somebody who had done so many interviews, Spielberg kind of come to, a bit of an epiphany about his own work when, you know, when when asked particular questions about choices or things that that he loved that influenced his work.

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So, yeah, those things are amazing. And you you really have a podcast that's kinda set up to, you know, to to dig into that because you're not, you know, you're not giving them the subject matter. They're coming to you with something that they really want to to talk about. And I do love how everybody is kind of, like, you know, in terms of the three, you are very, you know, open to it in terms of, like, trying to find out more about it, or you're not afraid to let the, the guest kind of dictate where the conversation goes if it's a topic, like, you're not, you know, maybe not super familiar because I don't think any of you had really read the Terry Pratchett novels to bring up the Erika Henderson one. And, you know, you were, I think sometimes as, like, hosts, we we worry that we have to be, like, the most knowledgeable in the room and controlling everything, and it's really refreshing to hear folks like, no.

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Tell me. Tell me about the thing that you love and why you love it. And I really think it's a it's a it's a great approach.

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Yeah. I think what's really been rewarding is we're getting to talk to some of the most creative and interesting people in comics and then letting them take a deep breath. And they've done a lot of interviews. Like, Jimmy, you talked about all of the interviews you did to promote your book a few weeks ago. Right?

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And some of these critics have done hundreds of interviews over dozens of years, and maybe they prefer not to do another interview right now until you say, hey, this is gonna be totally different. This is a timeout conversation. And to me, one of the most rewarding parts sometimes happens like before we even all go to record is just that initial response where it took Calisio DeConnick several weeks to come up with the topic of Alan Aldo, which seems odd since she has knuckle tattoos with Alan Aldo's name. The answer was there the whole time. But you're dealing with these really creative people, but you're asking to think about their process or just their excitement in a different way.

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And so they have to take a minute. And that to me is is the joy of it.

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That is such a great point about the Alan I mean, that is literally written on her knuckles, and she wasn't sure what to talk about. Right? And that says it all. And the fact that she's like, oh, yeah. That's what I should talk about.

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I this thing I put on my epidermis.

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That literally influenced her whole life.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it was great.

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And once you do get her talking about it, again, there's these revelations of them. You know? And here's what I know about it, and here's why I'm fascinated by it. And there's always this wonderful several wonderful connections to what they do, why they do it. And that's what was really fascinating for us is, you know, we all love art.

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David's collection is breathtaking. Chris' has an entire spinner rack of books that she did. She was the first editor editor to work with. Let's let's do a list.

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No. No. No. No. We're not we're not

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getting Alright. So Chris is awesome, and she's stealth about it. And but, you know, we love to know what is it that when you're sitting there as a creator and you have to decide, will my story go left? Will my story go right? Will it go up?

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Will it go down? Will I go light? Will I go grim? What is it what is it that's gonna make you make that decision? What is it that you're longing for as a creator that you're gonna put into your that into your characters at that moment?

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And that's what's been fun for me is listening to to that that level of mechanism, and it and it disarms them so much, which is just a blast.

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Yeah. It really is. Yeah. It's really cool to see, like like, into the thought process. And you don't even know it.

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You know? It's like, you know I mean, some of them are obvious, like, you know, like, you know, like, Matt Fractions. Like, you know, it it's kinda obvious at some point where you're like, oh, okay. Spy. You know, he's into spy novels, obviously.

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MacKenzie. MacKenzie. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.

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MacKenzie. Yeah. I mean, it it just kind of like, you know, fits together in a very obvious way. But some of them like Marjorie Liu, like, with the gardening. Not so obvious, but when you hear it, it clicks.

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Know? You're like, oh my god. Yeah. You know? So it's very fascinating to see how all of it fits together afterwards.

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Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah. And once you know this about them, you can go back into their work, and you can see it.

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And you can just rediscover their work in fun ways.

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Yeah. Definitely.

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Yeah. That's what I I really think is the cool thing when you learn something new about a creator because they you know? And and, David, you said it in terms of you know, I was just talking about a number of interviews over a few weeks, but some of these creators have been in comics for years and maybe have had multiple projects that they're trying to promote or been interviewed at at conventions. And, you know, when I do find out something interesting about a creator or something I didn't know before or something that they loved, it it it does, you know, have a tendency to, make me look to reinterpret the work or kind of see it through that lens or or think about it and keeping that that that thing in mind, you know, whatever it is, whether or not it's Terry Pratchett or Alan Alda or, game training your dog, which was another topic. It really is kind of, you know, fascinating.

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Has there in doing this both at for the podcast and at conventions, has there ever been anything that a topic that really surprised you that a creator said, oh, this is the thing I really wanna talk about? And there doesn't have to be. I was just curious.

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Yeah. No. Wait. I'm sure there there are several. I was I was trying to choose one.

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Well, I'll I'll buy them time for a second and give you a lot answer, which will set up their answers possibly. And I think season two ended up being very different from season one in terms of the kind of things that people talked about. So, talking about a major writer like Stephen King or a major musician like Billy Joel, like we kind of had a sense of how that conversation was gonna play out. In many ways, the gardening episode with Margery Doo is the beginning of season two. Because it's like, we're going to talk about a general love that is not as specific of what book did you read when?

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Or how many times did you see them in concert? But how does this act, just being a gardener, inform who it is that you are every day and how it brings you happiness? And that made us have to pivot in terms of the the kind of questions that we wanted to ask. Alright. I turn it over to you guys.

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Hopefully, my vamping gave you time to come up with an answer.

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Absolutely. Thank you, David. And that, you know, I love I love Monstress before I knew who Marjorie was. And and in Monstress, there's this sense of legacy. There's this sense that it go you know, the story goes back a long time.

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Like, you Marjorie's characters, they have a history, and that history is, like, hanging over every frame. So when she told us, for example, that she is nurturing this this plant,

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this Amaryllis.

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Yeah. Amaryllis in her family for how long? It it's been generations. Generations. I was like, oh my gosh.

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There it is, you know? So that was that was surprising.

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Puts a piece of herself into every story she writes.

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Yeah.

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It was very telling.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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But, I mean, but also, like, you know, who knew Alan Alder? Like, that was weird.

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And I and I and I loved and I loved it. Yeah. That was surprising as hell. Not so much for me because I'm the oldest of the three of us. So for me, I loved Alan Alder as well.

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And I remember the MASH days, and I remember when when he was, like, the penultimate, you know, TV star when when basically every casting office in town was like, I need an Alan Alda. Get me an Alan Alda. Where's Alan? I need a low rent Alan Alda. And that was that was the time.

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And it was and he was winning Emmys, and it was, you know, nobody missed that show week after week after year after year. So that I got that.

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Yeah. I think the game based dog training was a little, like, out of left field too. I don't think anybody expected Elsa to, like, come out with that. I think, you know, most people think it's like a fandom is gonna be like either a band, a singer, you know, an author Yeah. Like some kind of fandom like that of of, like, what you're really passionate about.

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And game based dog training, I

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mean So great.

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That's a

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And she was so passionate about

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it. Was.

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And that was great because that's not just that's not just someone has made a thing, and I appreciate this thing in a way that matters to me. That was there are I have this living creature in my world, and I want to give it the best life possible. And I I refuse to accept the idea that this is a dumb animal. I absolutely refuse that concept.

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Yeah. It was like, you know, there's cat people. There's dog people. I gravitate towards dog people at parties, and this is who, like, my circle is, and this is, like, my personality. Like, it was very yeah.

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It was it was

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Paul Pope was a surprise. Paul Pope's was a surprise. That was Really?

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I I thought that was very him.

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I mean, it was for me, though, because I didn't know who Roland Howard was. Yeah. And I knew Vimbenders, and I knew I I knew I knew that scene. I had lived downtown, you know, in the LA art scene for a while in the nineties. And so that's definitely where, like, one of the guys that lived there was this major punk photographer.

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He'd like he'd had You get you

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weren't really familiar with, like, who Paul Pope was as a person either. Right?

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Right. Right. Right. Yeah. It's true.

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It's true.

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Because you feel like you know Paul Pope, and you're like, yeah. That makes sense.

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And I do think I agree with Gossip. I was gonna go to Paul Pope and the Roland Us Howard episode only because, like, that was the first time that none of us had listened to the song by someone, like a song at all. Right? And so, it is both very Paul Pope. But then, we were really reliant on Paul, who was amazing tour guide for us.

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Like, he made a Spotify playlist and sent it our way and was just you know, kept sending notes after the show. Like, oh, hey. I keep thinking about this. And, again, is allowing yourself to get swept up in somebody else's enthusiasm.

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Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah.

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Yeah. Is there anything like that that while doing this podcast that you discovered that you're like, oh, I'm I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna get into this a little bit now?

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Definitely the Terry books.

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Yeah. I wanna I know I wanna read those books so bad. Like, she should be

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Mhmm.

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah. That was a big one.

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She could go on she could get on a train and, like, sell Terry Pratchett, like, to everybody. They should they should do a whistle stop tour.

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They they are they are I've listened to a few. And I because I I don't have I don't have too much time to, like, read anymore. So I did, the past few years, get into audiobooks. And I do like I do like the audiobooks, of the of Pratchett. I know I think, Christian, I think you're a little what what one of you Christian or David were a little down on, audiobooks, I think, during the podcast.

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Yeah. Yeah. That was me. That was me. That was me.

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I'm like, I need to read it. Read it. And it's you know, I guess this is weird too. Like, I love the everybody loves the the Stephen Fry Harry Potters, but I love the other guy, Jim Dale. I love the Jim Dale Harry Potters as far as audiobooks are concerned.

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And everyone's like, oh, man. Stephen Fry. I'm like, he's fine. Not gonna disrespect Stephen Fry. He's a wonderful man.

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But that Jim Dale stuff, I didn't anyway. So yeah. Not that I love to read. I I I I make time to read. It's hard to do.

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No no shade at all. It is so hard. Reading time is so hard because because of this demonic thing. It's like steals your brains.

[00:18:04] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. I mean, the phone, it is hard. I I love to read. I've since I was a kid, I was, you know, a voracious reader and, but it is it is hard to make time. So a couple of years ago, I thought I'd give audiobooks a try in order to force myself to I still have a difficult time saying I read the book, though, if I listen to it.

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But Always have to say that. Right?

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Well, I listen to it.

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I do. I can't I I can't help it. But I had a goal last year to at least, like, listen to, like, 50 books. So, and because I I never could have read I never could have made the time to read 50 books, but, you know, driving to and from work, and I was able to I was able to knock them out. And, I started some of the Discworld books.

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They are they are real Erica's right. They're really they're really great. They're really funny.

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And, you know, I'd like to add a caveat. So I since then, I have listened to some audiobooks. And okay. Again, super fan. Right?

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We're like I'm like, okay. Well, you know what, mister Reid all the time? Let's try some audiobooks. And what I loved about it was was that it it's like a it's like an adaptation, like any adaptation. Right?

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It's a whole different quality you get. Like, I would love to hear Alan Moore read any of his books. Right? That would be so great. You know?

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He doesn't do audiobooks, but I wish he would because that would be a singular experience. Right? Sure.

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Oh, yeah. I I agree.

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So both are both are cool. You know? And if you don't have time to read, then the audiobook is at least, like, at least you're getting it in some form.

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Thank you. Have the

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three of you thought about what you would talk about if you were on your own podcast?

[00:19:36] - [Speaker 2]
So we'll start with David.

[00:19:38] - [Speaker 3]
Yes. Go ahead, David.

[00:19:39] - [Speaker 4]
Well, I'm gonna skip that question for a second. Go back to what we were talking about just because it's too fun.

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David. David, this is my show, David.

[00:19:49] - [Speaker 4]
No way. Yeah. I'm gonna, like, knock the screen over.

[00:19:55] - [Speaker 5]
This is bullshit.

[00:19:57] - [Speaker 4]
I love it.

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I went out on a limb for you, David, and you're not respecting me. Now go ahead.

[00:20:04] - [Speaker 4]
So you asked if if there were new things that we became fans of from the show, and I would say that the Erica episode really helped me commit to not, a new fandom, but just that commitment to reading. And I decided I was gonna read one classic book. I think time and space will get a little blurry these days, but I think that it was after that episode that I was like, all right, I'm gonna commit to 12 classic books over the course of the year. So I will read more than that, but I also like to read, like, fun pulpy books. This was like the idea of, like, let's get to some of the books I always meant to read that I've owned for years that I kept putting off that experience.

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And then audiobooks has definitely allowed me to read more. I still definitely have the caveat, but it is sometimes so rewarding, especially I find if the novelist reads it and is a good reader. So years ago, I got to work with Victor Laval, Victor's big book, The Changeling, is an amazing audiobook. And Vic reads it. And I had gone to so many of his readings.

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It was like just having story time with him. Right? It didn't feel like an audiobook because he knew when to breathe. He knew when to do the turn page in a way that, like, an actor who may or may not be more professional would not necessarily feel the rhythm of the book as he did as a as a novelist. Novelist.

[00:21:40] - [Speaker 4]
But if I were to go on a podcast, I would probably talk about baseball. I think what what this podcast has made me think about is, like, the what does it really mean to be a fan? And, like, when can you walk away from being a fan? Because there's something like if you're really a fan of something, there's something a little dark about it. You might end up with knuckle tattoos, or you might have, like, a terrible baseball team, and you just you can't not watch them.

[00:22:10] - [Speaker 4]
Right? You can't and that's part of being a a fan. You know? You're like, oh, I loved this series. I haven't loved it in a while, but I can't stop.

[00:22:18] - [Speaker 4]
You know? Or people have bought, like, x men for twenty years, I'm like, I can't I can't stop now. Baseball for me is the thing I can't stop. I probably should. How about you guys?

[00:22:29] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. I no. I get that about about baseball or, you know, I'm in I'm in Delaware, but I grew up in Delaware County or Delco right outside of Philly. So I've been a lifelong Phillies and eagles fan. And, the kids today don't know how good they have it because there were there were some tough years in the eighties with the you know, after they were in the world series in, I guess, '80.

[00:22:54] - [Speaker 1]
But, but yeah. So how about you? Kristen or or Christian, who wants to go first?

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I'm gonna guess that yours is gonna be, Kurosawa.

[00:23:04] - [Speaker 2]
Yeah. That is that is I would do Kurosawa. It it's it's tough not to do silent movies in general, but I I love Kurosawa so much. And there's I think people know him too, I think he'd be more approachable. Like, silent movies is so esoteric.

[00:23:19] - [Speaker 2]
There's so few people that that really love can can can deal with them. But I I do love them. But Kurosawa is, the perfect his visual storytelling is owes so much to the silent techniques. And there's only there's as far as people that release are still doing silent film or carried silent film forward, it's Kurosawa, Walt Disney, and, of course, Alan Dwan and King Vidor. But, see, immediately, it gets super esoteric.

[00:23:46] - [Speaker 2]
You're like, blah blah blah physics. But I wanna say, speaking of Philadelphia, I can't believe Lindrose never got a cup. Just real quick. I'm I I can't believe Lindrose never got one, man. Sorry about that.

[00:23:58] - [Speaker 2]
Right? Sorry about that.

[00:24:01] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. We we, yeah, we we can't either. No. It's it's alright. As as the as yeah.

[00:24:07] - [Speaker 1]
As the as the Hurricanes, recently swept the Flyers, yeah, the Flyers are out now. But yeah. Yeah. Big Eric Lindross fan.

[00:24:16] - [Speaker 2]
Long long suffering Kings fan here as well. So I'm right. Not to you know, you guys have more cups than we do. But, yeah, it would be Kurosawa. Kurosawa for me because I just you know, there's just so much poetry in every frame, and and he was a he's a painter and a poet.

[00:24:32] - [Speaker 2]
And there's this wonderful story about when before he directed, he was a art department guy, and that's that's a that's a part of filmmaking that I've made as well. And art department is its own thing, and you have to be obsessed, kinda like comic book artists. But check this out. So they're on set. The next day, they have to they they've just made this set.

[00:24:53] - [Speaker 2]
And for this movie back in Japan in the early fifties. And Kurosawa is the one he's the hit the historian. He remembers. He looks at the set. It's beautiful.

[00:25:03] - [Speaker 2]
Everybody's like, okay. Cool. We're exhausted. You know, we did this thing. There's never enough time.

[00:25:06] - [Speaker 2]
There's never enough money. And and Kurosawa remembers young Kurosawa was like, you guys, it's a snowstorm. And they're like, no. Turns out the the historical fiction that they were making was very, very like, they were super into the fact that, no. We're doing we're telling that story that all of Japan knows.

[00:25:25] - [Speaker 2]
It's a very famous part of our history, our martial history, and we're telling that story. We're very proud of it. And they're about to mess up because there was this famous snowstorm that was integral to the battle, and their set had no snow whatsoever. So they had no time at all. And they they by the time they were shooting, by the time everybody showed up, they had been working all night long to make sure that there was thick enough fake snow that that it, it looked historically accurate.

[00:25:48] - [Speaker 2]
And I I love that. As Chris knows as the editor of my book, Cthulhu Town, Chris knows how obsessed I am with every detail. So So What what would you do?

[00:25:58] - [Speaker 3]
I don't know. What do you think I would do?

[00:26:00] - [Speaker 2]
Oh, wow. I mean okay.

[00:26:01] - [Speaker 3]
So because I knew David was gonna pick baseball, I knew you were gonna pick Kurosawa. So what do you think I would do?

[00:26:07] - [Speaker 2]
David, do you have a guess?

[00:26:09] - [Speaker 4]
I'm gonna say Skeletor.

[00:26:15] - [Speaker 2]
So good. I wish I had said that now. That's such a good guess.

[00:26:19] - [Speaker 3]
Masters of universe.

[00:26:20] - [Speaker 2]
That says I he kinda would be a Skeletor. Yeah?

[00:26:23] - [Speaker 3]
Is that your guess?

[00:26:24] - [Speaker 2]
Oh, I mean, okay. So David made his do you have an answer?

[00:26:27] - [Speaker 3]
I mean, maybe.

[00:26:28] - [Speaker 2]
Okay. Okay. Let's see. Skeletor is so good. I feel like I'm on Family Feud, and that guy got the number one answer.

[00:26:36] - [Speaker 2]
I said, we've already done gardening. I mean, you'd love to garden.

[00:26:39] - [Speaker 3]
I'm like, how well do my cohosts know me?

[00:26:41] - [Speaker 2]
You love your dog. You love your dog named Skeletor. Your dog named Skeletor, by the way. You love Chicago. You love hamburgers.

[00:26:51] - [Speaker 2]
There's so many things. You're a very well rounded person. So

[00:26:54] - [Speaker 3]
So you're saying you don't know?

[00:26:56] - [Speaker 2]
Yeah. Totally.

[00:26:57] - [Speaker 3]
Okay. You know, I I would actually probably talk about whiskey.

[00:27:01] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay.

[00:27:04] - [Speaker 4]
Holy I'm not kidding. I was literally about to say whiskey, but I didn't want to interrupt you. But I have to say, I would've thought whiskey be, like, number four on Family Feud.

[00:27:15] - [Speaker 3]
Really? Four.

[00:27:17] - [Speaker 4]
Yeah. Thought whiskey, Marjorie Lou slash gardening. Right?

[00:27:22] - [Speaker 3]
Yeah. I wouldn't have, like, doubled up, though. I would have let Marjorie have her gardening. Otherwise, I would have I probably would have picked because I I do love gardening. Yeah.

[00:27:31] - [Speaker 3]
So, you know, that's why Marjorie and I got along so well. But yeah.

[00:27:34] - [Speaker 2]
Yeah. But sounds I love that part where you guys ran away with that episode a little bit.

[00:27:37] - [Speaker 3]
We did.

[00:27:37] - [Speaker 2]
I loved it. Was like, yeah. Tell me more.

[00:27:39] - [Speaker 3]
Yeah. Yeah. We totally did. We totally did.

[00:27:41] - [Speaker 2]
As you should have. Right? Because you knew this you knew the subject. I mean, that's how it should have gone.

[00:27:45] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. So whiskey would be yours?

[00:27:48] - [Speaker 3]
I I think so. Yeah. I think whiskey. Yeah. I've been a big fan of whiskey for years.

[00:27:51] - [Speaker 3]
Like, I I, I I have my favorites. You know? I I I go rye, and then, you know, I I'm on the hunt. Like, I I've gone from, like, top to bottom, and I have ratings, and, you know, I I just I love to try new ones that I've never tried. And, you know, I've I've gone all the way from, I mean, I've tried some really expensive ones that are just amazing.

[00:28:15] - [Speaker 3]
So yeah. I think I'd I'd think I'd do whiskey. Yeah. You bought me, like, a $100 shot once.

[00:28:22] - [Speaker 2]
Didn't I didn't I though? What a guy. You did. What a guy.

[00:28:24] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. Yeah. What a guy. That's a that's a lot. That's a lot for one shot.

[00:28:30] - [Speaker 2]
It it was a celebration. There was some there was some really cool thing that happened. So I was like I

[00:28:33] - [Speaker 3]
don't even remember what that cool thing was.

[00:28:35] - [Speaker 2]
Me either. Me either. It was awesome. Yeah.

[00:28:39] - [Speaker 1]
But you remember the whiskey. You remember the whiskey. So

[00:28:41] - [Speaker 3]
Oh, that that's what I might like, overshadowed whatever that cools Right. A lot. So Celebration.

[00:28:48] - [Speaker 4]
Yep. Yep.

[00:28:51] - [Speaker 1]
Jimmy, what about you? No. What would I pick if I was on?

[00:28:55] - [Speaker 2]
Yeah. Yeah. Great question.

[00:28:56] - [Speaker 1]
I I'm I mean, I, I think I would try and find something that that I'm passionate about that's maybe, you know, unique. Like, I I mean, like, some of the fandoms that I'm into, like, you know, not just comic stuff, but, like, loving something like, you know, star wars or, like, typical fandom type of things. But, yeah, that is a that is a good question. I'm also trying to think of something that I feel I am knowledgeable about that I that I really, you know, like to talk about.

[00:29:27] - [Speaker 2]
Okay. I'm glad you bring that up because this is something that we tried to we told every guest this. Thank you for getting there, Jimmy, because we several guests were like, okay. But I love this thing, but I don't feel like an expert on it. And we're like, dude, that does not matter.

[00:29:44] - [Speaker 2]
The passion is what counts. Like, we don't care that you know we we're not looking for encyclopedias. We're not looking anybody could look that up on right. We're looking for why you like this thing. And so that is so that would I really enjoyed saying that to each guest.

[00:30:00] - [Speaker 2]
Like, don't worry about what you know or you don't know about it. Just tell us why it matters to you. And I think that was really resonant throughout both seasons.

[00:30:09] - [Speaker 6]
Mhmm. Jimmy is too humble to do this. So as his stower ride or die, I wanted to tell you about his new graphic novel, Penny and the Yeti with artist Amber Aiken. What started as a comic short with his daughter that I've known about for ages now and it's evolved and has become one of those annoying can't talk about it in comics things for too damn long. Yes.

[00:30:32] - [Speaker 6]
I'm predisposed to be supportive but after reading an advanced copy of it, I have to admit it's way better than I anticipated. No shade but it's really good, remarkably so. Does it have a yeti? Yeah. Is it cute and adorable?

[00:30:45] - [Speaker 2]
Yeah.

[00:30:46] - [Speaker 6]
But it streak lies in effectively tapping into the all too familiar family dynamics that we all are facing in 2026 and approaching it in a way that doesn't insult the book's target audience. Kids. They are way smarter and perceptive than we adults give them credit for. So I really appreciated Jimmy's narrative approach tapping into his own experiences as a dad and a spouse. I can hear his wife saying, get off your phone, Jimmy, through the pages.

[00:31:12] - [Speaker 6]
She's gonna kill me for saying that. It's hitting shelves on April 21, and I dropped the link in the show notes where you can preorder a copy today. Getty or not, here we come with Penny, Perry, Fenton, Maxine, and the magical, mythical, magnificent YETI. On behalf of us both, we appreciate your support. YOLOLA.

[00:31:34] - [Speaker 1]
It's it's tough. It's tough, though, because, I'm trying to think of the things that I love and am passionate about. I like, I love sandwiches, but would I wanna do a whole episode just about, you know, different sandwiches? I

[00:31:48] - [Speaker 2]
could. Yeah.

[00:31:49] - [Speaker 1]
I I could talk I could talk about sandwiches for hours

[00:31:53] - [Speaker 2]
and hours. You see, now now we have to do that episode.

[00:31:55] - [Speaker 3]
Now we're getting some

[00:31:56] - [Speaker 2]
of it. Let's just let's just take one

[00:31:57] - [Speaker 3]
to do the show. Know two people who would do sandwiches. I know two different people who would absolutely do sandwiches.

[00:32:03] - [Speaker 2]
Real quick, though. Like like, so what's what's the first sandwich that comes to mind when you talk about sandwiches?

[00:32:11] - [Speaker 1]
Being from this area, like, it's hard to not talk about cheesesteaks.

[00:32:15] - [Speaker 2]
Sure. Yeah.

[00:32:16] - [Speaker 1]
My favorite cheesesteak is from a place just in Delaware, not even in Philly, but they're they have a a sandwich called a Kevin's original, which is a chicken cheesesteak with, extra black pepper, fried onions, and mayonnaise, and it is phenomenal.

[00:32:35] - [Speaker 2]
Hungry.

[00:32:35] - [Speaker 1]
My other favorite is probably the every time I go to a Philly speaking of baseball, every time I go to a game, at Citizens Bank Park for the Phillies, the first thing I do is go to the Tony Luke's at the ballpark and get their pork Italiano with sharp provolone and broccoli rabe, and I sit there and eat it in, like, twenty seconds. I mean, it's a big, like, a 10 it's on a 10 inch hoagie roll. And it just you're just you're just grease is just dripping down your arms. I stand. I don't even go back to my seat.

[00:33:08] - [Speaker 1]
I don't even make it out of the Tony Loops line. That's how much I love that sandwich.

[00:33:14] - [Speaker 2]
I love it. That's amazing.

[00:33:15] - [Speaker 3]
That looks like, Ray Anthony Hite was on one of our live shows, and he was he talked about being a grill master. That was his passion, being a grill master. Yep. Barbecue.

[00:33:25] - [Speaker 1]
That's awesome.

[00:33:26] - [Speaker 2]
I was starving then too now.

[00:33:27] - [Speaker 3]
I know. That was a good one. That was a good one.

[00:33:30] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. Yeah. I I could I could talk about different sandwiches, I think

[00:33:34] - [Speaker 3]
Absolutely.

[00:33:34] - [Speaker 1]
For a while. Christian, you mess mentioned silent films, and something that I never get to talk about is I am such a huge fan of Buster Keaton. I had a a a pro a teacher in in high school, and whenever we had down he taught US history. But whenever we had downtime, he would put on, like, a Buster Keaton film. And I'd never heard of bus I mean, I'd I never heard of Buster Keaton at that point in in high school.

[00:34:01] - [Speaker 1]
I mean, I'd heard of Chaplin and and but I just fell in love with Buster Keaton's films and then, like, some of the the stunts that he would do and the techniques that that he would employ that, you know, I would see in later gags that, like, the three stooges or stuff would do that, that that Buster Keaton originated. And then then to see a film like the general, and, yeah, I just don't I it's like every once in a while, it might come up, but I never get to talk about how much I love Buster Keaton films and how I I still don't think he ever got the credit he deserved for some of the stuff that that he did and and just the comedy of his movies and the characters that he created.

[00:34:47] - [Speaker 2]
Yeah. Buster Keaton. I mean, it's one of the things I miss when I go to movies these days is the danger act. Right? Old movies, silent movies, were were circus like in that you had a Buster Keaton flying around and falling down a waterfall and getting out from a moving locomotive in the nick of time.

[00:35:10] - [Speaker 2]
Right? Just sitting there as the train, like, my they were they were just putting themselves on the line. It there's very few people that know how important that is to cinema. Tom Cruise is one of them. The guy's climbing all over a biplane.

[00:35:24] - [Speaker 2]
Right? I mean, that's amazing footage. I love that scene just because it's so silent film. Right? It's like, here's Tom Cruise

[00:35:32] - [Speaker 1]
on what? I Right? Tom Cruise and Chris McQuarrie are probably the closest we have to that today.

[00:35:39] - [Speaker 2]
Jim Cameron, when he sent in Terminator two Jim Cameron in Terminator two, when he sent that helicopter under the overpass, I mean, that was real. That was real stuff. You know? Yeah. I just missed that in cinema.

[00:35:51] - [Speaker 2]
They you know, you do Ben Hur in the fifties, and it's dangerous. You do Ben Hur now, and it's all green screen. So and we know it is. You know? I think that's one of the things that was impressive about the Marvel movies is they got me to believe a lot a lot of the time, emotionally, that they got me so emotionally invested that I didn't mind that, you know, the action was not the danger act that Buster Keaton represents in in that tradition.

[00:36:13] - [Speaker 2]
But but, yeah, no. I I love Buster Keaton. It I I can't I can't you and I, if I'm ever in Philly, we're having sandwiches and Buster Keaton movies.

[00:36:21] - [Speaker 1]
Absolutely. I'll I'll run out a theater, and we'll put some films on and get some sandwiches. I'll figure out.

[00:36:26] - [Speaker 2]
Blast. It would be a blast. Oh my gosh.

[00:36:30] - [Speaker 4]
I'm just gonna say you should probably watch the cook, the 1918 Buster Keaton movie.

[00:36:36] - [Speaker 3]
The cook.

[00:36:36] - [Speaker 2]
Oh, okay. Mhmm.

[00:36:39] - [Speaker 1]
You. David's programming for us.

[00:36:41] - [Speaker 4]
I was moving to the other screen, googling away Buster Keaton sandwich. It'll bring your loves together, Jimmy.

[00:36:47] - [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

[00:36:49] - [Speaker 2]
Fantastic. That one. No? No. I gotta see that one.

[00:36:52] - [Speaker 2]
Thanks, David. It's one I missed. Wow. Yeah. Thank you.

[00:36:55] - [Speaker 1]
But there's so many. There are. With the different backgrounds that the the three of you have. You know? I mean, David, with, I mean, super fan promotions, I think you started that in 2013 and the different things you've done with super fan promotions.

[00:37:14] - [Speaker 1]
Christian, your your your work as a a writer and an artist, and, I and, Kristen, you've been an editor and done so many amazing things starting, really bringing so many different creators to the different publishers that you've worked for over the years and shepherding some, like, amazing comic books. What do you think about your careers has, like, best prepared you for, like, coming together and doing this podcast?

[00:37:47] - [Speaker 2]
It's a good question.

[00:37:48] - [Speaker 3]
It's a very good question. I think, David, like, you have a really good take on this because you were the one that kind of, you know, thought about our backgrounds the most and how you wanted to put it all together. So

[00:38:01] - [Speaker 4]
Yeah. I think, you know, the sort of the obvious answer leading into we did a lot of preproduction before the show had started. We we, like, met almost every week for an entire year before recording an episode and just, like, brainstorming. And sometimes they were, like, great ideas that we either didn't write down or just didn't hold together. You know, having gossets, like, visual sensibility helped inform not only, like, how the show would be marketed, but, like, the vibe that we wanted to have.

[00:38:36] - [Speaker 4]
Right? Chris, you're, like, so good at, like, pulling story out of people, and so that was really helpful in terms of the actual conversations. And then I'm used to getting people to do things they don't wanna do, like interviews, and so that was helpful here. But I would say, like, having done two seasons, those things were helpful kind of in the prep mode. Largely, what works about the show is just our all of our curiosity and excitement to get people to share what it is that they love, which isn't really baked into any of our, like, actual day to day career choices per se.

[00:39:18] - [Speaker 3]
Yeah. I think it's a the three of us have a really good chemistry, which we noticed very early on. And so that was really, I think, the driving factor is that, when we were together, you know, we thought about, you know, we're at a party. We're at David's house, and we're talking to people. You know, we're all we know, you know, pretty high level people.

[00:39:45] - [Speaker 3]
And so we thought, you know, we wanna bring the general audience into this fold. We want them to have the same conversations we're having, you know, because that's pretty much what every fan wants. You know? They they want that access. And so how can we bring them that access?

[00:40:00] - [Speaker 3]
And this is how that was born. You know? It was like, these are the kind of conversations that you'd have, you know, of, like, what do you love? Let's talk about what you love. You know?

[00:40:09] - [Speaker 3]
This you know? And and not your books because we're not talking about that stuff. You know? We're we're

[00:40:14] - [Speaker 2]
There's there's other places people can go for that.

[00:40:16] - [Speaker 3]
Yeah. There's other places you can

[00:40:17] - [Speaker 2]
go for great job.

[00:40:18] - [Speaker 3]
Yeah. This is the the people behind, you know, the books. So, yeah. And that was, I think, kind of how the backgrounds came together of that. You know?

[00:40:28] - [Speaker 3]
So that's how we did it.

[00:40:30] - [Speaker 1]
Awesome. Yeah. That's great. Yeah. I I I do think it's it's a very unique approach.

[00:40:38] - [Speaker 1]
It does feel you guys do have a great chemistry, and it does feel like you're just kinda being a fly on a wall at at a party. Listen to folks, like, talk about the different stuff that they love. That's what's, you know, really great about it, getting that feeling, you know, which is nice. One of the one of the good I mean, it could be a bad thing, but one of the good things about this day and age, you know, with social media is, like, fans can have a lot of contact or access with the per folks making the book, which, like I said, it can be bad, but they there, you know, there is some good to it as, you know, for respectful fans. But, I think you guys are really doing something, unique.

[00:41:19] - [Speaker 1]
And, yeah, I've I've like I said, I listened to the Erika Henderson one. I can't wait to get through some of the other ones. I really I have to hear the the Kelly Sue Daconic, Alan Alda one now, though, but I think that's gonna be, next on my next on my list to

[00:41:34] - [Speaker 3]
It's a good one.

[00:41:35] - [Speaker 2]
Yeah. Yeah. It's a good one. It's a

[00:41:37] - [Speaker 3]
good one. It's very interesting.

[00:41:39] - [Speaker 1]
Mhmm. Is there how far in it how far out do you, like, record these? Do are there do you have some some, you know, already in the can ready to go, some coming up that you wanna let listeners know about? Or

[00:41:54] - [Speaker 4]
We are now officially on hiatus, which is

[00:41:57] - [Speaker 1]
Okay.

[00:41:58] - [Speaker 4]
Yeah. We all, wear many hats and have been very, very busy, and it takes a long time. We have an amazing editor, Bryant Dillon, fan base press.

[00:42:09] - [Speaker 2]
Bryant Dillon, fan base press.

[00:42:11] - [Speaker 4]
Makes us sound good, each and every week. But it you know, it's a it's a long, arc to do these between scheduling, doing the research, and just making everybody's schedule line up. Yeah.

[00:42:24] - [Speaker 3]
Yeah. It's really it's

[00:42:26] - [Speaker 2]
really tough. All of our it's me, it's David's first podcast. Right? It's my first podcast.

[00:42:31] - [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

[00:42:31] - [Speaker 2]
And it's not your first podcast. You're you're the veteran.

[00:42:33] - [Speaker 3]
It's my second one.

[00:42:35] - [Speaker 2]
Which that's that's why we make her do all the work. But, like, Chris, you do it.

[00:42:39] - [Speaker 3]
Yeah. But, you know, it's it's different, though. Because this one's, like like, the first one, I only I don't even know if I can count because it was just like, oh, get together every Saturday and, like, you know, talk live. You know? And so this is much more sophisticated.

[00:42:52] - [Speaker 3]
Like, know, we record ahead of time. We edit. We have a theme song. Like, we're really put together on this one. And, and it's just a lot of care, you know, that we put into this.

[00:43:03] - [Speaker 3]
It's not you know, we're not fly by night here. I think what you know, we're doing these episodes, and we record them all very much ahead of time. Mhmm. And a lot of a lot goes into it. And then all of them are done before we even release, you know, the first one of the season.

[00:43:24] - [Speaker 3]
And so we really have to bank them because we wanna be sure, you know, that they can all be released.

[00:43:30] - [Speaker 2]
And we compare notes on Yeah. Each guest. And, like, I remember it's so funny. We were like, okay, man. So Paul Pope dude, have you heard of this guy?

[00:43:39] - [Speaker 2]
No. I haven't heard of this guy. That was so funny. Our reaction is kind of a fun moment in every show where we're like, what? Have you heard of that?

[00:43:45] - [Speaker 2]
And that there's usually a one of us is like, oh, I got this. Like Yeah.

[00:43:49] - [Speaker 3]
You know? Yeah. Half of us have heard of what they're talking about, and the other half hasn't. Right. I don't think any of us knew who Roland Howard was.

[00:43:54] - [Speaker 2]
No. No. That was one of the ones where we're And there's usually one of us is at least one of us is like, I have no clue. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:43:59] - [Speaker 2]
Or or I I'm not really even quite you know?

[00:44:02] - [Speaker 3]
Yeah. We have to do some research on the subject for sure.

[00:44:04] - [Speaker 2]
I was a huge Billy Joel fan too, so it was fun with the first episode with Guggenheim was really fun for me because I and it was I I still I hope that Mark has seen David, next time you talk to Mark, will you ask him if he has seen Step Brothers yet?

[00:44:19] - [Speaker 4]
I will. We should get a T shirt.

[00:44:22] - [Speaker 3]
The Catalina wine mixer. He had no idea what that was. I was, like, so surprised.

[00:44:25] - [Speaker 2]
Jimmy, you seen stepbrothers?

[00:44:26] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Did we just become best friends?

[00:44:30] - [Speaker 2]
Yeah. Right? Right? Yep. Exactly.

[00:44:32] - [Speaker 2]
So I asked him. I'm like, okay. Billy Joel, Catalina wine mixer. And he's like, I haven't seen it. I'm like, oh.

[00:44:36] - [Speaker 3]
I mean, I'm not gonna say that we changed Marc Guggenheim, but I feel like we changed Marc Guggenheim.

[00:44:41] - [Speaker 2]
I felt terrible about it too. I was like, damn it. I'm a bad host. I'm like, shaming the guest.

[00:44:47] - [Speaker 1]
It's it happens. Look. I'm sure it wasn't intentional.

[00:44:50] - [Speaker 2]
I know it was not.

[00:44:52] - [Speaker 1]
I have an episode of this podcast coming out next week where I unintentionally I feel like I unintentionally shamed Dan Waters because, he's living in The US now, but Dan's from, you know, London. And, I said, oh, I really like Batman dark patterns. I said I said, but I I, I said, you can take the the the writer out of London, but I guess you can't take, the the London out of the writer because you you called the Gotham old people pensioners. And I just meant it as like, we don't use that word here. Like, And I felt I then I instantly felt like I made him feel bad that, like, a a Britishism slipped through the cracks.

[00:45:31] - [Speaker 1]
And I was like, I didn't mean it like that at all. I thought it was charming. I don't know. Like, can we start again? So I really like your writing, Dan.

[00:45:39] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. So it happens.

[00:45:40] - [Speaker 2]
Yeah. Yeah. Totally.

[00:45:42] - [Speaker 3]
Who is your editor?

[00:45:43] - [Speaker 2]
Oh my god. He's still he's still hears that in the night. Benjamin's. Benjamin's. Purple pros.

[00:45:51] - [Speaker 3]
I'm sure Yeah.

[00:45:52] - [Speaker 2]
So He's fine. I didn't

[00:45:54] - [Speaker 1]
I didn't mean anything

[00:45:55] - [Speaker 2]
by that. You don't. It's terrible. Right? It eats you up.

[00:45:58] - [Speaker 3]
It does.

[00:45:59] - [Speaker 1]
Just trying to have we're just trying to have a good time.

[00:46:00] - [Speaker 2]
We're gonna try to talk about stuff.

[00:46:02] - [Speaker 3]
Right? We're all friends. We can't be perfect.

[00:46:04] - [Speaker 4]
Were you able to did you feel like you got to pull the conversation back to where

[00:46:08] - [Speaker 1]
you wanted it to go? I think so. You know? Fingers crossed. We'll we'll see.

[00:46:15] - [Speaker 1]
I don't know. I I don't know what I'm doing. I mean, did you edit it out.

[00:46:19] - [Speaker 2]
We did something. I I had a terrible thing that we just did. Yeah. I was like, you know what? That is just not making it to the episode.

[00:46:24] - [Speaker 2]
I'm not even gonna say what it was. I'm just gonna say, that is not going in the episode. That is dope.

[00:46:29] - [Speaker 3]
That's me being the power that we have.

[00:46:30] - [Speaker 2]
Yeah. Editing, man. Edit too.

[00:46:33] - [Speaker 1]
I still I I don't know what I'm doing. I mean, Byron is but, you know, if Byron is, Byron O'Neil is the editor in chief of comic book Eddie. He's the other host, but we don't host episodes together. We just kinda each do our own thing. And so, Byron wanted to start this podcast, and I was like, yeah, I guess.

[00:46:51] - [Speaker 1]
I'll I'll help out. And now it's been, like, I don't know, however many episodes, but I just feel I just like to talk, and I just I just try and have a good time and Yeah. Let people talk about what they wanna talk about.

[00:47:03] - [Speaker 2]
I'm having a good time. Are

[00:47:04] - [Speaker 3]
you having a

[00:47:05] - [Speaker 2]
good time?

[00:47:05] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. Thank you.

[00:47:06] - [Speaker 2]
This is nice, everybody.

[00:47:07] - [Speaker 1]
Totally. I appreciate it. I I I would be remiss, Christian. My brother would would be very mad at me. My brother Bobby, who I I shout out every episode because Bobby listens to every episode.

[00:47:20] - [Speaker 1]
He's the cryptid creator corner, number one's most dedicated fan. My I love it. My my younger brother, who's, you know, old you know, he's as I always say, like, my I say my younger brother rather than my little brother because, I mean, he's he's 42. He's he's a grown man, but he does listen to all my episodes.

[00:47:38] - [Speaker 2]
Aw.

[00:47:38] - [Speaker 1]
So he is the the the biggest Darth Maul fan that that I know. I mean, huge. He he, like, you know, he's been Darth Maul on Halloween as a fully grown adult and, you know, so I did I I feel like for him, I have to ask about your involvement with that

[00:48:03] - [Speaker 2]
You have to.

[00:48:04] - [Speaker 1]
Character and the design of the lightsaber because he would

[00:48:07] - [Speaker 3]
You do.

[00:48:07] - [Speaker 1]
Be very upset.

[00:48:08] - [Speaker 2]
It's my pleasure. And hello, Bobby. And I'm very close with my younger brother as well. And it took me forever to stop calling him my little brother. You know, he's a grown man as well.

[00:48:16] - [Speaker 2]
Hey, Adam. And, yeah, the lightsaber, I was in my early twenties, and I was I got this job, thanks to my buddy Frank Gomez, two North Hollywood kids just trying to, you know, trying to make it in comics. And Frank was so good. He got a job working with Tom Beach on a DC book called commandy. They were redoing commandy.

[00:48:38] - [Speaker 2]
Tom Tom was writing. Frank got the assignment. And Tom, during commandy, was hired to do tales of the Jedi by dark horse, which was a very licensor heavy job. Right? Obviously.

[00:48:50] - [Speaker 2]
And so, you know, licensors just leaning on you, like, know, get this right. Do this. Do that at every step of the way because star they knew at Lucasfilm licensing that they were gonna start doing the prequels. And so things got intense. It it had been kinda quiet.

[00:49:04] - [Speaker 2]
Nobody thought there were gonna be more Star Wars after Jedi. Right? That's just not there were already three movies that was, you know, three sequels. That's plenty. Now let's just move into licensing.

[00:49:13] - [Speaker 2]
Tim Zahn does some great stuff. Cam Kennedy, bless him, did some great stuff with Tom. But I was, you know, I was like, for a long time, Star Wars was just saying it was that was the thing. It was awesome, it's, you know, it's on VHS now. It it's fine.

[00:49:26] - [Speaker 2]
It's not gonna be new movies. But then the early nineties happened, and they decided they're gonna do the prequels. And that's the that's the the world in which we entered. And so Frank said, hey. I know a guy who loves Star Wars, and he allowed me to send Tom my work.

[00:49:44] - [Speaker 2]
I did this very intense portfolio piece. Everybody was doing it. Everybody was doing this portfolio piece, the same three pages. And and, you know, they were very classic Star Wars type stuff. But so I got the job, and they said, listen.

[00:50:01] - [Speaker 2]
George is not wanting to be when you're writing the prequels, he was all he was bound by the licensing, and he didn't expect that, frankly. Right? He was like, what what do you mean I have to call it Coruscant? Right? You know?

[00:50:14] - [Speaker 2]
So he's like, oh. He's like, okay. So listen. I don't want any more of I don't want new stuff. I'm already having to deal with all this old stuff.

[00:50:20] - [Speaker 2]
You know? I'm putting things in placeholders. Like, whatever that's if that's if the licensing has established what that is, that. Right? If there's a and so he didn't want any more stuff coming down on him.

[00:50:30] - [Speaker 2]
So he sent us as tales of the Jedi four thousand years before the time of Luke Skywalker. Walker. And I was like, okay. Cool. Is there any reference for that, or is there any is there a bible?

[00:50:39] - [Speaker 2]
And they were like, no. You make it up. And I was like, are you kidding me right now? I get to be in my early twenties, and you've given me a a blank slate in the Star Wars galaxy. You're literally giving me my own corner of the Star Wars galaxy in my early twenties.

[00:50:50] - [Speaker 2]
I saw Star Wars at the Gromans Chinese Theater on opening day. My dad my my dad took my brother and I out of school. Well, I begged him, don't let me dad, I wanna go to school. I wanna go see the Star Wars movie. And he's like, okay.

[00:51:04] - [Speaker 2]
Fine. He just kept you know? And dad and so dad took us to the Chinese Theater in Hollywood, cut the line, got us in in a very near my pop's from Washington Heights. So he's like, this line ain't for me. This line is for you people.

[00:51:19] - [Speaker 2]
This line ain't for me. Not me and my kids. We're gonna get into this show. So we get into the show because that was his dad and, you know, blown away like everybody else. So I get super into it.

[00:51:31] - [Speaker 2]
And they they the assignment for me, I took very seriously. Talk about obsessed. Four thousand years before Luke Skywalker, to me, means as someone who loves history, as someone who loves martial history, as someone who loves Star Wars, I'm like, I'm gonna get super into this. What do I make it look like? How do I make a culture?

[00:51:48] - [Speaker 2]
How do I make a galaxy that is authentically four thousand years before the time that we know, and at the same time, is still a Star Wars experience for the reader? So the logic for me was go work inside out. What does that mean? Inside out is a fun way to work. It's like Peter Jackson and and What a Workshop.

[00:52:06] - [Speaker 2]
Those guys work inside out. Right? They're not just gonna put knights on horseback. They're gonna make them look. They're gonna figure out an entire culture that would be on horseback in that world.

[00:52:15] - [Speaker 2]
Right? The dwarves aren't just dwarves. We've seen lots of fantasy dwarves, but we've never seen Gimli and the gang like they were as defined in the Lord of the Rings films because they worked from the inside out. Why would this culture be like this? What would they have been inspired by?

[00:52:27] - [Speaker 2]
What what is it to be a dwarf in a mountain and mining all the time? So I work like that. I I like to know so I I went to Lucas' inspirations. Kurosawa. That's that's where I that literally is where my love for Kurosawa was born.

[00:52:39] - [Speaker 2]
And Flash Gordon, of course, because he loved those cereals as a kid. And and racing. He loved car racing. He loved to go really, really fast. And so I took I went to his inspiration, and I was like, okay.

[00:52:50] - [Speaker 2]
This is so cool. Obviously, Jedi used the lightsaber. Right? But if you went four thousand years ago, that lightsaber is gonna take on different forms. It's not gonna be because there's all these different cultures from all over the galaxy.

[00:53:02] - [Speaker 2]
And as as the Jedi reach them and they start to make lightsabers, those lightsabers are going to reflect their martial culture, not just this flashlight with a cool beam on the end. And so that's where it all comes from, to make a short story long. All comes from Yes. It all comes from wanting to be like, hey. This is how I can possibly make this solve that problem of making it look ancient and at the same time connect it to Star Wars.

[00:53:24] - [Speaker 2]
So there was there was a bow and arrow lightsaber system I worked out. There was a lightsaber on the end of a staff. There was, the double bladed one, obviously, and some other ones. And, and licensing was like, this is crazy. What are you doing?

[00:53:38] - [Speaker 2]
And I was like I was like, four thousand years. I was like, come on, you guys. It's so Kurosawa. Like, you know, it's like, look. The samurai didn't use just a katana.

[00:53:46] - [Speaker 2]
As cool as the katana is, they used bows and arrows. They used staves. They used all this cool stuff. They didn't have just one weapon. They And were like, ugh.

[00:53:53] - [Speaker 2]
They didn't know what to do with it. So they were like, look. And I was very stubborn about it. I was like, you guys, I'm telling you, this is cool. I know it's it's got it's giving you Ajita because you're marketing people, but it's gonna it's I'm telling you, it's gonna be great at licensing people.

[00:54:05] - [Speaker 2]
And so they said, okay. Fine, you pain in the ass. Do a nice drawing of these weapons, and we'll show them to George. And if George agrees with you, then you can keep them in the book. And that's what happened.

[00:54:16] - [Speaker 2]
I I pulled my phone out of the wall. I spent all weekends drawing these lightsabers, and I submitted the lightsabers to to licensing licensing children to George, and George George loved him. And I I got the fact I had I got the facts from Lucasfilm. My my editor at Dark Horse Comics, who had championed me as well, like, you know, normally, anything that came down normally, any rejection from Lucasfilm licensing Dark Horse was like, yes, sir. Like, no question.

[00:54:43] - [Speaker 2]
Right? Like, yes, sir. We love your license. We love the money. Yes, sir.

[00:54:47] - [Speaker 2]
Mhmm. But I'm, yeah, I'm I'm a pain in the tuchus. So I I'm like, no. I pushed back. I'm like, no.

[00:54:52] - [Speaker 2]
You guys, this

[00:54:52] - [Speaker 1]
is so cool. I'm telling

[00:54:54] - [Speaker 2]
you this is you know, I was a madman. And as my editor, Dan Thorsland, god bless him, he stood by Barbara Kiesel was at Darkhurst at the time. She stood by Dan who stood by me. And and Richardson was like, what's happening with these children? What what's going on?

[00:55:08] - [Speaker 2]
What's the problem? Oh, god said he's a madman. But, fortunately, George saw the logic in those blades and the anthropology of it all. And he's really an anthropologist. And the fact that I had done a little bit of amateur anthropology rung true for him, and that's where it all comes from.

[00:55:22] - [Speaker 2]
So sorry, Bobby. I know that was a really long story, but there No.

[00:55:25] - [Speaker 1]
No. That's that's awesome. I mean, I I love hearing it. It's it's just incredible, you know, not only to have that type of opportunity and that type of, like, influence, but, you know, to get to do something like that that you love to do and then, you know, crush it. You know?

[00:55:46] - [Speaker 2]
Thank you.

[00:55:47] - [Speaker 1]
It's like Thank not just do it, but, you know, did it really well. Thanks. Yeah. Was good fun. That's phenomenal.

[00:55:53] - [Speaker 1]
That is that is awesome.

[00:55:55] - [Speaker 3]
And one of those really cool is going to Galaxy's Edge with him. And because when he worked at Disney, he got free passes to go to to go to Galaxy's Edge. It was really cool. So Mhmm. I got to go there once.

[00:56:08] - [Speaker 3]
And and going into the gift shop and seeing a whole wall of, like, whatever they sell there and him pointing out, like, half a dozen things and going, oh, hey. I designed that. Oh, wow. I designed that too. What?

[00:56:24] - [Speaker 3]
Oh my god. End that. And, yeah, that was really cool.

[00:56:27] - [Speaker 2]
It was cool. It's it's it's it's really and last year, I got invited last year, I got invited to this very cool Star Wars show. Family show, like, a fan driven, amazing little show in Burbank. One of the best shows I've ever been to, honestly. And and it was all about the expanded universe.

[00:56:45] - [Speaker 2]
And, man, they were they were so wonderful. And they told me, not only is it the double bladed lightsaber, but there are all these other things from those early tale of the Jedi books that are still being carried forward, in the video games and in in all kinds of ways. So that was really wonderful to see.

[00:56:59] - [Speaker 1]
That's awesome. Yeah. Kristen, I want to give you a chance to talk about, you know, your current work if there's anything, you know, I I that you other than the podcast and the the super fan podcast that you wanna tell folks about what it is you're doing or anything you

[00:57:13] - [Speaker 2]
have coming out?

[00:57:15] - [Speaker 3]
Yeah. So I'm the executive editor of Nakama Press over at Mad Cave, which is a new manga line that they launched about, a year ago. And I believe, the first creator owned book hit, which is called the boyfriend, and it's by Seth Sherwood and Elisa Pachetta. And it's a horror book, and it's it's teen horror, and it's really super fun, and I love it. And it's I think it's coming out next week, actually.

[00:57:46] - [Speaker 3]
Yeah. And so that's really super fun. Yeah. And I'm really happy about that. Yeah.

[00:57:52] - [Speaker 3]
And Chris's book is Cthulhu Town, and that's gonna be hitting later on in fall. And so I'm really excited about that one. And, yeah, that's, like, that's pretty much what I've been working on. I also do only one title for the Mad Cave proper line, and that's Pop Kill. That's Dave Johnson and Jimmy Palmiotti.

[00:58:07] - [Speaker 3]
So I work on that book. And yeah. And that's that's pretty much all I've been working on.

[00:58:15] - [Speaker 2]
Just my just my own manga line. That's all.

[00:58:18] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. Just

[00:58:18] - [Speaker 2]
Just just an entire manga line.

[00:58:21] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

[00:58:21] - [Speaker 3]
Just It's a lot of licensed properties over there. You know? I I work, you know, on an infinity force with Tatsunoko, you know, and a lot of stuff that I that I can't announce yet, which is, you know, really big properties that I've been going through the translation process. And it's it's really cool, and it's really awesome, and I love working on them. And it's a lot of books.

[00:58:42] - [Speaker 3]
I'm on I was on, like, 35 to 40 books by myself for a while there, and it was it was I was underwater.

[00:58:48] - [Speaker 2]
I'm sorry. Say that again?

[00:58:48] - [Speaker 3]
35 to 40 books.

[00:58:50] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. That's a lot.

[00:58:51] - [Speaker 3]
Yeah. 35. I think I'm down to, like, 28 now. So

[00:58:54] - [Speaker 2]
Oh, that's still a lot. It's like a vacation. Yeah. 28 books still a lot.

[00:58:58] - [Speaker 1]
That still sounds like like a lot. Yeah.

[00:59:01] - [Speaker 3]
Well, we're Fun. They're all great books. Yeah. I love them all.

[00:59:04] - [Speaker 2]
I can't even handle my sock drawer. Yeah. She's doing 28 books.

[00:59:07] - [Speaker 3]
It's pretty great. I really love it. I absolutely love all of them. I'm having a great time.

[00:59:12] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited to see some of the creator owned manga stuff because I have, like, a manga sized hole in my my comic reading, but my oldest daughter, she's Charlotte is 13. 13. And, you know, I started re you know, I started her own comics and graphic novels, and she reads other stuff as well, but she kinda discovered manga, like, on her own and through friends.

[00:59:35] - [Speaker 1]
And so she has been, I've watched a couple of, like, animes with her, but I haven't gotten into the actual manga yet.

[00:59:43] - [Speaker 2]
But Aw.

[00:59:44] - [Speaker 1]
It's it's on my list to get to. She's been telling me she's into a new series now. She's into a new series now. The summer Hikaru died, and so she wanted me to get into that. And she actually I have a I have a Nakama press T shirt that Mad Cave sent me, and she saw it the other day.

[01:00:01] - [Speaker 1]
And she's like, what is that? I'm like, oh, it's Mad Cave's. It's their their manga line. She goes, what do they make? And I'm like, well, let me tell you.

[01:00:08] - [Speaker 1]
I have a couple of books here. So

[01:00:11] - [Speaker 3]
I like hearing that. You're in for a treat.

[01:00:15] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. So I'm I'm very excited that about mad cave and the stuff that they're doing, and I'm very excited to see some of the creator and stuff coming out of the Nakama press.

[01:00:24] - [Speaker 3]
So Awesome. Yeah. They're all great. I love them all. They're honestly they're they're top notch.

[01:00:28] - [Speaker 3]
Yeah. Every single one.

[01:00:30] - [Speaker 1]
Absolutely. Awesome. Yeah. David David, are you still here?

[01:00:34] - [Speaker 4]
I am still here.

[01:00:36] - [Speaker 1]
What anime have you watched with your, daughter? The, I I watched a couple episodes of that of the the one that she's she's reading as well, the summer, Hikaru died.

[01:00:50] - [Speaker 3]
I've heard of that one.

[01:00:51] - [Speaker 1]
I guess some of the the ones for for younger kids, like my hero academia, she was into and then there was another one after that. Was it I don't think it was Bleach. It was I can't remember the name of it.

[01:01:04] - [Speaker 3]
I almost watched on the flight here.

[01:01:07] - [Speaker 2]
It was a short flight. And I

[01:01:08] - [Speaker 3]
was like, I'll watch a couple episodes of Bleach. Why not?

[01:01:11] - [Speaker 2]
I'm such a such a manga freak and an anime freak. I've been watching anime since Starblazers, you know, like, the way back.

[01:01:18] - [Speaker 1]
I every everything that I've I've just it wasn't anything that I got into when I was younger, but everything I've watched with her has been, you know, I don't know, really enjoyed it.

[01:01:26] - [Speaker 2]
Oh, good.

[01:01:27] - [Speaker 1]
There were some of those star wars visions episodes that were very, like, anime influenced, which

[01:01:32] - [Speaker 2]
Very cool.

[01:01:32] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. Which I thought were I thought were really great. But I'll I'll take recommendations. So you know?

[01:01:38] - [Speaker 2]
Which hat which hat atelier? Okay. Which hat?

[01:01:42] - [Speaker 1]
I've heard of that one. I have not watched it. Oh my god. I haven't

[01:01:45] - [Speaker 2]
watched it. I've only been in the book so far, but I a friend of mine is watching the shows, and he says it's fantastic. So I gotta see that. Alright.

[01:01:50] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. Mhmm. Right. I'll put it right to the the top of the

[01:01:53] - [Speaker 2]
list. And

[01:01:55] - [Speaker 4]
if you're a great way to discover new manga is to listen to the Manga Splinting podcast, because it is for people who it is, set up for Chip Zdarski as someone who, when the podcast started, had not read any manga at all. And so that is the lens that every episode is structured around. So I just covered so many great series, based on that. Highly recommended. Yep.

[01:02:21] - [Speaker 1]
Okay. Yeah. That sounds, that sounds like that would be a great, entry for me into, into manga and a way to bond with my 13 year old who, desperately runs from anything I suggest. I have to, like, I have to, like, run a psy op every time I want her to check anything out. So it's great.

[01:02:42] - [Speaker 2]
Bless you. Oh, that's so funny. My daughter's 19, and I know what you mean.

[01:02:48] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. It's so funny. Like, she's I mean, she's a great kid. And

[01:02:52] - [Speaker 2]
Of course.

[01:02:52] - [Speaker 1]
I she's you know, she she was she's really smart.

[01:02:57] - [Speaker 2]
Individuation, man. Individuation. It's a it's a

[01:02:59] - [Speaker 3]
big boy.

[01:02:59] - [Speaker 1]
Has all her stuff. Oh, like, they are not like, star wars was my thing as a kid, and, like, they are not into it. Neither of my my children. We went to Disney World, like, in two years ago in '24, and I was excited to go to, like, Galaxy's Edge. And they just not not their thing.

[01:03:21] - [Speaker 1]
Not not at all. I act I actually there was another site, website I wrote for called gatecrashers, and when they were doing stuff for, like, May 4 for, like, for Star Wars Day. And I wrote an article called rise of their resistance, how my kids don't want nothing to do with Star Wars. And I've I but I never I never wanted to be one of those dads that was, like, the sport dad, but with nerd stuff. So I've been, like, I've been, look.

[01:03:48] - [Speaker 1]
I can't force it on them. I can't push it on them. They're not into it. I just have to hope that when they find something they are passionate about, they, you know, let me into their world a little bit.

[01:03:58] - [Speaker 2]
You know, Star Wars is one of those things. You never know when you can catch the Star Wars bug. I was my daughter did was the same. Didn't give a darn about Star Wars for so long. And then at one point, she was just, like, into it.

[01:04:12] - [Speaker 2]
She you know, there was a friend that was into it, brought her into it, and that was it. Now she's just completely a Star Wars person. I never thought it would happen.

[01:04:21] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. I you you never know. There's so much stuff out there. There are things that they they do like. Like, you know, they when they were kids, we had the the golden books for each movie.

[01:04:32] - [Speaker 1]
So they they're at least Okay.

[01:04:34] - [Speaker 2]
You know,

[01:04:34] - [Speaker 1]
on on some level familiar with the story. So I'm like, alright. I'll take my I'll take my wins where I can get them. You

[01:04:41] - [Speaker 2]
know? No doubt.

[01:04:43] - [Speaker 1]
David, is there anything else that you have coming out or coming up that you want to tell folks about?

[01:04:48] - [Speaker 4]
Oh, gosh. It's a I will say that it's a very busy time for her super fan, and and then it's just an amazing time to be a comic book fan. Right? It was an explosion of not only, like, really high level books, but books like, I'm just so excited to get a chance to read. So we've been talking about manga or the anime.

[01:05:09] - [Speaker 4]
I'm a huge fan of Pluto. Jumei is probably the manga I would recommend to you to read because it it is definitely something that someone who likes, say, Watchmen would gravitate towards. It is a murder mystery where someone is killing the world's smartest robots. It is a retelling of a classic oh my gosh. I just blanked.

[01:05:35] - [Speaker 4]
Astro Boy.

[01:05:37] - [Speaker 2]
Osamu Tezuka.

[01:05:39] - [Speaker 4]
Yes. Thank you. And Nice. And this is gorgeous, gorgeous storytelling. And I became a huge fan of Yurosawa.

[01:05:51] - [Speaker 4]
And he had this book called Billy Bat, which I kept hearing about, but it was not available in The US for many, many years. And it seemed like it was never going to come over, and it is being released next month. So as a fan, the fact that I got to read it months early, that fact that I'm getting to work on it, and to help, like, bring more readers to discover his work is, like, tremendously exciting.

[01:06:14] - [Speaker 2]
I will check that out. David lives near one of the best comic book stores in Los Angeles. How are they doing, David? That place, such a good store. We went in there and spent a fortune.

[01:06:24] - [Speaker 4]
Secret headquarters such a fantastic store.

[01:06:27] - [Speaker 3]
And when

[01:06:27] - [Speaker 4]
we moved to LA, it's in a different location, and it was down the street from where I lived, and I could walk there. And then I moved to Atwater, and Secret headquarters moved to Atwater. So I feel it feels like a a nice thank you from the universe.

[01:06:41] - [Speaker 2]
That's so cool.

[01:06:42] - [Speaker 1]
And that's awesome for that.

[01:06:43] - [Speaker 2]
Love it. Well, Jimmy, this

[01:06:44] - [Speaker 4]
has been amazing. Thank you for being a great host today.

[01:06:47] - [Speaker 2]
Yeah. Thanks, Jimmy.

[01:06:48] - [Speaker 1]
Oh, well, I I'm just doing the best I can with the little I have, David. I really appreciate your patience today, as we made our way through this. But, yes, listeners, please check out the super fan podcast. It is a really great format. You're not you're not only gonna discover something you didn't know about a creator that you love, but you might discover something that you love yourself, and, you'll it's it's really a wonderful conversation that they have with these different creators.

[01:07:21] - [Speaker 1]
So thank you very much, David, Christian, and Kristen. I I really appreciate all your time today. They'll I'll have a link in the show notes so you can follow them on social media, and you can check out and subscribe to the super fan podcast. And so listeners, thank you very much for listening. I'll see you next time, and good night.

[01:07:40] - [Speaker 3]
Thank you.

[01:07:41] - [Speaker 4]
Thanks, friend.

[01:07:42] - [Speaker 2]
That was great.

[01:07:43] - [Speaker 6]
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[01:08:02] - [Speaker 0]
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