Bryan Reheil Interview - Milk Run

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[00:02:32] Hello and welcome to Comic Book Yeti's Cryptid Creator Corner.

[00:02:35] I'm one of your hosts, Jimmy Gasparo and I am here with a gentleman who has his first published comic coming out soon and I was eager to talk to him.

[00:02:49] We've kind of been in similar circles on Twitter.

[00:02:55] He's from the, you know, near the Philly area and is like kind of in Philly now.

[00:02:59] So we have that, that Philadelphia connection.

[00:03:02] Super excited to talk to him about his new comic Milk Run which is coming out from Scout Comics in November.

[00:03:09] And I think this is going to be a great conversation, especially anyone who listens to this podcast who is thinking about how do I do it?

[00:03:16] How do I write a comic?

[00:03:17] We're going to talk about somebody who just kind of did all this process, this whole thing recently and is on the verge of seeing like their first comic book published by, you know, a publisher coming out in a few months.

[00:03:29] So please, please, a welcome to the podcast, Brian Real.

[00:03:33] Brian, how you doing tonight?

[00:03:35] Jimmy, I'm doing great.

[00:03:36] Thank you so much for having me on the show.

[00:03:38] Been a big fan for a couple of years now listening.

[00:03:41] Really love your interviews.

[00:03:43] So it's kind of crazy to be on one myself with you, but I'm so excited.

[00:03:50] Well, thank you.

[00:03:51] Thanks for listening.

[00:03:52] That's a very nice of you to say.

[00:03:53] Yeah, I mean, you know, with Twitter is probably the social media platform I use the most for good or ill at this point.

[00:04:02] But yeah, you're, you know, they joke, you never know what the algorithm is going to show you.

[00:04:10] But I see a lot of the stuff that like you post or, you know, we kind of comment on similar things in terms.

[00:04:17] Yeah, in terms of comics.

[00:04:18] So when I saw that, you know, it was announced recently that Milk Run is coming out with Scout Comics.

[00:04:26] I think November 24th is when it'll be in your LCS.

[00:04:31] Yep.

[00:04:31] 27.

[00:04:32] I think that's a Wednesday.

[00:04:33] Okay.

[00:04:34] Yep.

[00:04:35] Okay.

[00:04:35] So that Wednesday in November when it comes out.

[00:04:39] And yeah, so I was, you know, I was, I reached out to you because I was like, hey, man, why didn't you, why didn't you tell me?

[00:04:47] I know.

[00:04:48] I was, I was getting ready.

[00:04:50] I was just like trying to go through the process of like, how do I do this the right way?

[00:04:53] Like, do I not abuse, but like, do I use my DM connections that I have with like mutuals like yourself to just like, hey, you want to talk about this?

[00:05:03] You know, I know for the most, like, I know now, like, people want to talk and jam about this kind of thing.

[00:05:09] So, should reach out sooner.

[00:05:13] No, but it's fine.

[00:05:14] We're you're, you're on here now.

[00:05:16] And that's, that's what matters.

[00:05:18] But yeah, I, I look, I always think it never hurts to ask.

[00:05:24] I mean, I don't, I don't like when people are too pushy about stuff.

[00:05:29] But you know, if this, I do it all the time, though, in terms of like tagging people, like I've, but I've trying to get Charles soul on the podcast for a while now.

[00:05:39] And I, I, I will just like send a random tweet out or bug whoever his current assistant is just because, you know, he's an attorney or like, you know, a recovering attorney who now writes full time.

[00:05:55] One day, Charles, but yeah, we'll manifest it.

[00:05:58] We'll figure it out.

[00:06:00] We'll figure it out.

[00:06:02] Yeah.

[00:06:03] So, yeah, but I was excited to talk to you when I saw that, that, that this was coming out, um, milk run was coming out.

[00:06:09] You were kind enough to send over a, uh, you know, a review PDF of, of milk run.

[00:06:16] And I really liked it.

[00:06:18] Um, yeah, so that's the good, that's the good news.

[00:06:21] Well, one, it's, it has a lot of things I like, uh, one, it's set in Philly.

[00:06:25] Um, so since I'm from Delco, you're from, we just talked about, you're from Bucks Co.

[00:06:31] Uh, now, now in Maniunk, I went, you know, I'm from, I'm from Delaware County, but I worked in Philly for a while.

[00:06:36] I went to college and law school in Philly.

[00:06:38] Um, so anything set in Philadelphia already, I have a soft spot in my heart for plus my big thing.

[00:06:45] I've probably mentioned on the podcast before, but I I'm a huge science fiction fan and within the, within science fiction, my favorite sub genre is probably time travel stories.

[00:06:58] Um, so right off the bat, we get, you know, this main character who can kind of travel back in time.

[00:07:05] But he, the interesting thing where I think you've kind of set yourself up for a lot of fun with your premise is that he hasn't really figured out whether or not he can do anything like more substantial than going back in time to spend less money on groceries.

[00:07:22] Exactly.

[00:07:23] Which is, which is kind of like, I just think it's like a really kind of like brilliant, to be honest with you, like kind of premise because there's such outlandish time travel stories and I've watched like all of them, whether or not something like back to the future, which I think is perfect.

[00:07:39] And there's something like, um, lost with all of its lore and rules and like whatever happened happened. So you can't really change the past.

[00:07:50] Um, you know, so the, you know, and, and, and there's just everything in between in terms of creating paradoxes and something really kind of complex, like primer. And then you have, uh, this where this guy is like, I can't, I, I've, I've got this weird thing that I just figured out and I don't know what else to do with it besides going back in time and spending less money on milk and bread.

[00:08:15] And that's all he wants to do. He wants to just live his peaceful life in his apartment in the city and just buy cheap groceries.

[00:08:24] Yeah. I mean, I really, and I can, you know, even though, um, even though it might sound surprising from, you know, someone that like me, that that is an attorney, but I aspire to that level of non ambition.

[00:08:37] Right. Yeah. I think we all do to just kind of cruise and that's kind of the core.

[00:08:43] Part of like who Zach is in the story and who he's trying, who he has to be by the end of it.

[00:08:48] But he's not like a, he's not like a slacker kind of like bum. I don't want the reader to get like the, or the listeners to get like the wrong impression.

[00:08:56] Like he works for like a kind of like a boys and girls, like a mentor program.

[00:09:00] You know, he, he, he, he's definitely like out there in the community, you know, doing things.

[00:09:08] He he's you've, um, you know, you've, you've turned him into a real character.

[00:09:13] He's just not like one dimensional to kind of like your story wouldn't really go anywhere if it was just the bit that he went back in time to get cheap groceries.

[00:09:23] Right. So you, you've given him some other characteristics.

[00:09:26] He is out in the community.

[00:09:28] And, um, as, as the listeners will find out when they pick it up and they read it, there is kind of like a central mystery.

[00:09:37] Somewhat involving Zach.

[00:09:39] Um, you know, I don't want to spoil too much of it, but there is kind of like a central mystery at the heart of milk run.

[00:09:47] Um, which it, you know, it, it ends the first issue in a, in a very, very, you know, interesting, almost ominous place.

[00:09:57] And it really built a nice tension to it, which is what I kind of liked about, uh, about the issue.

[00:10:03] Oh, thanks. Yeah. I'm glad.

[00:10:04] And yeah, you hit on all that, uh, the stuff about Zach not being a slacker is true.

[00:10:10] You know, it's, we wanted him to really feel like someone who, you know, even though he has it pretty well made in his life, he still has to have that meaning.

[00:10:23] So that's why he works with, uh, the youth group to mentor, uh, young children in that.

[00:10:31] And yeah.

[00:10:32] Yeah.

[00:10:34] So tell me about like, um, let's, I want to talk more about like kind of your journey in comics, but where do we do that?

[00:10:41] Tell me a little bit about the rest of the creative team for, for milk run.

[00:10:46] I'd love to.

[00:10:47] So on interior art, we have Jared Katz, who was just phenomenal.

[00:10:52] Um, you can't recommend it from our editor, James Emmett.

[00:10:57] And.

[00:10:58] Oh, oh, James.

[00:10:59] Uh, I, I, I'm familiar with, uh, James B. Emmett.

[00:11:02] James B. Emmett.

[00:11:03] His name has come up a few times on this podcast, but.

[00:11:07] He's a great editor and without milk run or without him, milk run probably wouldn't even exist just in a, uh, a broad sense, just with his keen direction.

[00:11:17] Um, but he recommended I reach out to Jared and I went on his portfolio, which is very impressed with his action scenes.

[00:11:25] And he has this really stellar space scape on his portfolio that I'm just like, the story's not set in space, but this is what I need to see to like, Hey, do you want to work with me?

[00:11:39] And he was down and he really enjoyed drawing all the city stuff too, which was a relief to me.

[00:11:48] So I'll throw in him all the, uh, Billy landmarks and little references.

[00:12:22] Yeah.

[00:12:23] And then coloring his work was Robert Nugent, who is doing great things now too.

[00:12:27] He's, he's coloring a lot of spawn work, working with, uh, Todd McFarlane.

[00:12:32] Um, and just awesome.

[00:12:34] Yeah.

[00:12:35] He's, he's killing it.

[00:12:37] So that was really great to like have him like work with him on this and then see him jump up into that.

[00:12:42] Just like, Whoa, that's, I got a, a spawn guy coloring my book.

[00:12:47] So everybody would love, would love to have a spawn guy on their team.

[00:12:51] I think so.

[00:12:52] Yeah.

[00:12:52] Uh, and then letters, we had the great Rob Jones.

[00:12:56] I don't know if you're familiar with his work.

[00:12:58] Yeah.

[00:12:59] Rob's been on the, yeah.

[00:13:00] Rob over in the, over in the UK.

[00:13:04] Right.

[00:13:04] Um, I love, I think Rob's been on the podcast before.

[00:13:10] And, um, yeah, I, I did, uh, I, I had written like a, a six, six page comic that like,

[00:13:17] for an anthology, but it, it, it wasn't accepted, but we still had, had made it.

[00:13:21] And, um, uh, Rob had, uh, had lettered that Rob does fantastic work.

[00:13:28] Yep.

[00:13:28] He designed our logo and he also, as you saw on the, on the opening page, he came up with

[00:13:34] our, uh, kind of caption design for that framing device that we have with the podcast.

[00:13:42] Yeah.

[00:13:43] That was pretty cool.

[00:13:45] He's just super talented.

[00:13:46] Um, and then Jared did our main covers and then, uh, if you're familiar with, get everything

[00:13:55] up.

[00:14:03] Laura Hellsby did our B covers.

[00:14:05] Oh, okay.

[00:14:06] Another UK native.

[00:14:08] They were really great.

[00:14:10] Um, it was similar vibe of pitching them.

[00:14:15] And then, uh, just here's some kind of city crime stuff run with it.

[00:14:19] And they came back with some really killer like thumbnails to work through and our B covers

[00:14:25] are some of my favorite.

[00:14:26] That's awesome.

[00:14:28] Yeah.

[00:14:28] I mean, it, I, it, you know, all of that, the, the credentials really showed like on the

[00:14:33] page, um, you know, especially early on, because it, it opens up basically with the, you know,

[00:14:39] kind of laying out how, um, you know, Zach's going to the supermarket, you know, that's

[00:14:46] how it all starts.

[00:14:48] Um, and there, what I really liked was when he kind of gets back to present time and is

[00:14:57] kind of just like exhausted from the time travel of it all.

[00:15:01] Like that whole panel, those whole couple of pages, like the kind of like the humanity

[00:15:05] and the comedy of it really all work so well on the page.

[00:15:10] It's really, really good.

[00:15:12] And then I really enjoyed writing that section, like that particular sequence.

[00:15:16] And I'm seeing that come to life just in every stage of like, of Jared's pencils and

[00:15:21] inks and then the colors.

[00:15:23] And then finally like Rob's letters on, I'm just like, Oh my God, this, like that opening

[00:15:27] sequence to the, our creator credits page is just like my favorite part of that first

[00:15:33] issue.

[00:15:34] Yeah.

[00:15:34] And it, it looked really great.

[00:15:36] Like it read really great.

[00:15:37] It looked really great.

[00:15:38] It was, it was really funny.

[00:15:40] Um, and it just kind of like set the stage for, you know, what I thought I was going to

[00:15:45] get, which kind of changed as the comic went on, which I liked, like I liked reading

[00:15:49] something and thinking I'm knowing, I know what it is.

[00:15:51] And, um, uh, then kind of being surprised by it.

[00:15:56] So, so yeah, I really, I really enjoyed all of that.

[00:15:59] Oh, that's great.

[00:15:59] Yeah.

[00:16:00] Really lucky to have been able to work with all of them and have them put their best effort

[00:16:04] into this and just make it something that we're happy to put out there.

[00:16:08] Yeah.

[00:16:09] So, I mean, are you, you know, I said, I really like science fiction and like time

[00:16:14] travel stories in particular.

[00:16:16] Was there, was there something about it?

[00:16:18] Like the idea of time travel, but being able to use it in a way that is, is not, you know,

[00:16:23] like earth shattering or life changing.

[00:16:26] Like, was that, or was there something else that kind of got you into this story that

[00:16:30] you wanted to tell?

[00:16:31] Yeah.

[00:16:32] So this one started out as just a, on a list in my iPhone of just vague story ideas.

[00:16:40] It was just guy travels through time to buy cheap groceries.

[00:16:43] And that's all I had.

[00:16:45] And that's all I had.

[00:16:46] It's just like that.

[00:16:47] And like a couple other ideas.

[00:16:48] I'm just like, I don't really like this one a whole lot right now.

[00:16:51] I'll keep it here in case I can flesh it out later.

[00:16:54] And it wasn't until like a year later when I was really starting to try to get onto, like

[00:17:01] into the scene of writing that I was looking for an editor.

[00:17:03] And that's how I got connected with James.

[00:17:05] And the first idea that I like pitched to him, he basically told me in like the kindest

[00:17:11] way possible.

[00:17:12] You shouldn't do that as your first outing.

[00:17:15] And I'm like, good point.

[00:17:17] Good point.

[00:17:18] You make, uh, I was like, how about this?

[00:17:20] He's like, that could be something.

[00:17:21] I'm like, okay, hold tight.

[00:17:23] And then I just was able to flesh that out over a couple of weeks more.

[00:17:27] And I'm just like, I think this is, I like this one a whole lot.

[00:17:30] Yeah.

[00:17:31] Yeah.

[00:17:31] The hardest part, like you said, you'd like time travel a whole lot.

[00:17:34] I would say don't create your own time travel story.

[00:17:37] Cause you won't like time travel after that because of the hair pulling you have to do to

[00:17:41] make it work unless you have a specific one that you're going to like,

[00:17:44] a specific method that you're going to be using to make it make sense, which became an

[00:17:50] issue at about halfway through issue two that some questions got raised from both James and

[00:17:58] our scout editor, Nicole DeAndrea, who I had to kind of wrangle it in and be like, okay,

[00:18:05] here's how it all works and makes sense.

[00:18:07] And nothing else has to change.

[00:18:08] Right.

[00:18:10] I mean, it is tough.

[00:18:11] And like, I think about, um, you know, how different comics or books or television shows

[00:18:17] or movies have like solved different issues.

[00:18:19] Like I just, um, recently finished watching the second season of star Trek prodigy, which

[00:18:26] like time travel was, I really liked the first season and, um, listeners, if you haven't yet,

[00:18:33] Aaron Walt, he was like the co-executive, the co-show runner, I guess, or co-head writer.

[00:18:38] Um, yeah.

[00:18:39] Co-head writer and co-executive producer.

[00:18:41] I think of the second season was on the podcast.

[00:18:44] Um, cause I reached out to him cause I really liked season one and I just, I finished season

[00:18:48] two not too long ago.

[00:18:49] And like time travel was like, you know, kind of like a huge component of it.

[00:18:53] Yeah.

[00:18:53] And yeah, it is like the, the, the, the different like rules and the things you have to do if

[00:18:59] you like write yourself in a corner and like, you know, how you have to try and like fix

[00:19:04] it, you know, the, um, and, and I've, you know, we, I've seen a lot of different, different

[00:19:09] ways, uh, back to the future.

[00:19:12] You know, when they changed something in the past, it like instantly changes the present.

[00:19:15] Like, you know, Marty McFly has the paper and like the headline and picture changes.

[00:19:20] Like, yeah, that was definitely something I had to work through.

[00:19:23] Like, do I want that kind of system or do I want to just kind of, well, people will see

[00:19:27] like how it gets locked in, how time travel works, what, what, you know, what the rules

[00:19:34] are.

[00:19:35] I always liked, I thought it was kind of silly, but I always liked the, if you've ever seen

[00:19:38] the Jean-Claude Van Damme movie time cop, where the same matter can't occupy the same

[00:19:43] space.

[00:19:43] I always remember that rule.

[00:19:44] So he couldn't, he, he couldn't, you know, like interact with his parents.

[00:19:50] Myself, which I was like, oh, that's, that's kind of fun, I guess.

[00:19:54] Um, but yeah, so, but that's probably good advice.

[00:19:58] If you love time travel, don't, don't go all in on writing a story about it.

[00:20:04] Yeah.

[00:20:04] Or be a little bit more smart, like be smarter than I am in general about how time travel might

[00:20:10] theoretically work.

[00:20:11] So that might make it a little less painful when you're trying to write a comic book series

[00:20:18] and you're not staying up late, pulling your hair out to make it all work and working your

[00:20:22] way out of all those corners you mentioned.

[00:20:24] Well, that's why you have, uh, you know, collaborators and, and editors.

[00:20:29] So, um, I can't wait to see how you figured it all out, how, uh, everyone got together and

[00:20:33] made it work.

[00:20:34] All right, let's take a quick break.

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[00:22:04] Let's get back to the show.

[00:22:06] You know, but let's talk a little bit more, you know, about you in terms of comic books

[00:22:11] in general.

[00:22:12] So as I said earlier, you're from Bucks County, PA.

[00:22:19] And were you always a fan of comic books?

[00:22:22] Was it like something you always read or did they come like, you know, I liked him when

[00:22:27] I was younger.

[00:22:28] And for years when I was in school, I probably didn't pick up a comic book until, you know,

[00:22:33] I don't know, 15 years ago when I was like 30.

[00:22:37] But what about with you?

[00:22:39] Yeah, it started back in 2012.

[00:22:41] I was a sophomore in high school at the time.

[00:22:45] And I pretty much just seen the Avengers, like the first Avengers movie.

[00:22:50] And before that, I was pretty into all the MCU movies and other like, you know, comic book

[00:22:55] films.

[00:22:55] And I had a few trade paperbacks of like Avengers versus X-Men and the Winter Soldier.

[00:23:03] But it was seeing the Avengers on screen.

[00:23:05] I was just like, these stories are somewhere else, right?

[00:23:09] I can get more of this kind of thing.

[00:23:13] And with that, I did a lot of Googling, like how can I read Avengers easiest and cheapest

[00:23:18] because I have no money.

[00:23:22] And I found a local comic shop next to the hairdresser that I would go to a lot and just

[00:23:28] walked in one day.

[00:23:29] It's like, hi, do you guys have Avengers?

[00:23:32] And the guy who worked there was like, we got a lot of Avengers.

[00:23:35] What do you want?

[00:23:35] I'm like, just the Avengers, like the movie.

[00:23:40] And he directed me towards the first three issues of Jonathan Hickman's Avengers, which

[00:23:45] was going on at the time.

[00:23:46] And I've been reading nonstop probably since 2012 at that point.

[00:23:51] I collected all through the rest of high school.

[00:23:54] Kind of took a hiatus with college as far as like collecting.

[00:23:58] I would only pick stuff up on my breaks.

[00:24:01] Right.

[00:24:01] But would read digitally with my iPad when I had the time.

[00:24:05] And then just after I graduated, came back home, got back into collecting more seriously

[00:24:11] because I got a job at that point.

[00:24:12] I was like, oh, I have this money that I can put more towards comics.

[00:24:17] Yeah, that's what it's for.

[00:24:19] Yeah, exactly.

[00:24:20] It's for comics.

[00:24:21] Yeah.

[00:24:22] And then, yeah, I've just been reading nonstop ever since.

[00:24:26] Just tons of different stuff.

[00:24:28] Catches my eye.

[00:24:28] You know, for the longest time I was just strictly Marvel because I thought like I had to pick

[00:24:32] a team.

[00:24:33] Okay.

[00:24:33] But it wasn't until like after college, I'm just like, that's silly.

[00:24:37] What am I doing?

[00:24:39] You're right.

[00:24:39] Like got more into DC and indie stuff at that point.

[00:24:44] And I kind of really opened my reading world there.

[00:24:48] Yeah.

[00:24:49] I mean, once I say like, I mean, whatever you like to read.

[00:24:53] Yeah.

[00:24:54] It's like this is like a new golden age, I think.

[00:24:57] And listeners are probably tired of hearing me say it.

[00:25:00] But there's I think there's literally something no matter what you like in comics now, whether

[00:25:06] or not you're Marvel, DC, Image or folks that are crowdfunding, you know, there's tons

[00:25:12] of stuff.

[00:25:13] Yeah.

[00:25:13] Yeah.

[00:25:13] There's so much.

[00:25:14] But so.

[00:25:16] So you still read Marvel.

[00:25:18] You've now gotten into DC.

[00:25:20] You've opened up your world to indie comics as well.

[00:25:25] Um, so what made you want to, you know, start like writing your own and had you started off

[00:25:32] trying to like get into anthologies or write shorter comics or what was kind of your, your

[00:25:39] path?

[00:25:39] I was always into, I guess, creative writing, I'll say in college, like I would try to take

[00:25:46] those classes when I had the time and the space to, um, and the ones that did, I was

[00:25:51] able to make things that other people seem to enjoy that I would share with like my

[00:25:56] friends.

[00:25:56] I never submitted anything at that point to anyone.

[00:26:00] Um, and it was, you know, at home around late 2019, I was taking a pitch class with Alex

[00:26:09] Segura.

[00:26:10] Cause I was just interested in like learning how to make comics and say, Oh, you need to

[00:26:13] pitch.

[00:26:13] I'm like, Oh, it's that's what's that.

[00:26:16] So I learned about pitching.

[00:26:18] Yeah.

[00:26:19] So when you, when you first, like when you first want to, it is funny though.

[00:26:22] I don't, I'm not like laughing like with you because like, it is, it is funny.

[00:26:26] Like when you're a fan of something and you're like, Oh, well, how, how does it work?

[00:26:31] And you start getting into it and like you, you hear these things from the industry.

[00:26:34] Like, well, yeah, you know, you, you can write something and, you know, try and pitch

[00:26:39] it and put together like a pitch packet with an outline and a couple of pages of art and

[00:26:43] like do all these things.

[00:26:44] And it's like, yeah, well, how a pitch packet the heck is that?

[00:26:47] You know, like what is, how do you make one for like to begin with?

[00:26:50] It's just like, practically, how do I, how do I put it together?

[00:26:54] Yeah.

[00:26:54] But like it started, it became like, I wanted to just, I was reading so much at that point.

[00:27:01] I was like, I feel like I could try to do this.

[00:27:04] Like I enjoy writing enough and you know, odds are nothing's going to happen and I'm not

[00:27:08] going to get a comic book made, but I want to, but I put in my head that if I'm not going

[00:27:12] to do it now and try now, I'm never going to try later.

[00:27:15] I felt so it's just like, I have the means and the time to just invest into that.

[00:27:22] So I might as well give it a go.

[00:27:26] It's, and it's just a lot of like, I've enjoyed comics at, for at that point, close to 10 years

[00:27:32] when I started that I was just like, it'd be cool to leave a mark on something that left

[00:27:38] its, a mark on me in such a significant way.

[00:27:41] It was just like, it got me through tough times at college.

[00:27:44] I was just like, have a bad day at classes or just extra nonsense that we were dealing

[00:27:48] with that.

[00:27:48] I was just go back to my room after I was done all my work and just load up a bunch

[00:27:52] of issues on Marvel unlimited of my iPad and just read an entire run of daredevil from

[00:27:56] Bendis.

[00:27:57] Right.

[00:27:58] And just like, wow, that was awesome.

[00:28:00] All right.

[00:28:00] I can do the next day.

[00:28:02] I can get, yeah, it's true that, that, uh, that is, you can't discount that aspect of

[00:28:09] being able to, you know, escape, you know?

[00:28:12] I mean, comics can be a lot of things you can learn, you can make you feel something to

[00:28:16] make you think what we, you know, just like anything, just like a book, just like a movie,

[00:28:20] just like a play.

[00:28:21] But, um, yeah, also there is just that function of just being able to escape your, you know,

[00:28:29] day to day life for a little bit.

[00:28:31] Um, yeah.

[00:28:31] And I thought if I could give that to someone else with the story that I wrote and then

[00:28:36] I would feel accomplished in that way too, that, you know, just passing on, it's like

[00:28:42] you're leaving your mark in your own legacy with each book that you can somehow get out

[00:28:47] into the world.

[00:28:48] Right.

[00:28:49] So was the first thing you did then when you think that you want to try and do this,

[00:28:53] I mean, after, you know, um, like the pitch class and that, uh, in terms of actually

[00:28:58] putting stuff together, like, did, did you look to get an editor first?

[00:29:03] Like, was that the first thing that you did to try and find an editor to work with saying

[00:29:08] that like, I'm going to make something and I want somebody who's going to help guide me

[00:29:12] through this process.

[00:29:13] That was exactly it.

[00:29:14] I was looking for comic book editors just on Twitter, you know, thankfully portfolio

[00:29:18] day rolls around every couple of months.

[00:29:20] Even back when was this?

[00:29:22] I wrote this back in 2021.

[00:29:25] Oh, okay.

[00:29:25] It was like back then is when I was starting to like get serious about this.

[00:29:29] Um, I was just going through, that's how I got connected with James.

[00:29:33] And I had, like I said, I had a pitch for something else already written up that he kind

[00:29:38] of talked me out of in the best way possible.

[00:29:41] Um, yeah.

[00:29:43] And it was with his words of advice and that one line on the iPhone of just like, Hey, guy

[00:29:51] times guy with a bad attitude, time travels just to buy groceries.

[00:29:55] That was able to like to use that pitch, uh, document that I had for the other story and

[00:30:02] just kind of fill it out else, like with everything for milk run.

[00:30:06] What would become milk run?

[00:30:08] That's awesome.

[00:30:09] Um, and so how many issues is it planned currently?

[00:30:14] Uh, it's just a three.

[00:30:16] It's like a one, two, three, and then finishing up beginning.

[00:30:19] Nice.

[00:30:19] Yeah.

[00:30:20] So it's a nice, tight story.

[00:30:21] Um, I was pretty happy just to keep it like that.

[00:30:25] You know, I think it ends in a way that's pretty concrete, but you know, cool.

[00:30:33] There's always room to go more if I need to.

[00:30:37] So, um, I mean, I know that the issue one isn't even out yet, but you've, you've, you

[00:30:42] know, for folks that don't know, I mean, comic books take a long time to make, not just a

[00:30:47] long time to write, but then the artist has to come in and do all of the artwork.

[00:30:52] And, you know, when you're working with a publisher, you know, things get edited, they

[00:30:56] get approved, then they get colored and lettered.

[00:30:58] And, you know, there's, there's different steps all along in that process that from the,

[00:31:03] the, the initial, I have an idea who it hits your local comic shop.

[00:31:08] Like you said, you, you wrote this or started it at least in 2021, you know, can take like

[00:31:14] a number of years.

[00:31:15] Yeah.

[00:31:15] But, but, um, you know, as the writer, most of the work is done, you know, once you write

[00:31:22] it and you do the, you know, the, go through the art, do the lettering pass and do all those

[00:31:27] things.

[00:31:28] So you're, you know, when it's on the verge of coming out, most of your stuff is done.

[00:31:32] Um, did going through this process, did it, were you like one and done, but you're like,

[00:31:38] I've, I've made my mark.

[00:31:39] It's going to be on the new, it's going to be in somebody's local shop or did going through

[00:31:44] all this.

[00:31:44] And you're like, I got another one in me.

[00:31:47] It already, it really solidified my resolve to, I want to do this more and more if I can.

[00:31:53] Okay.

[00:31:54] I think you're sick.

[00:31:55] Like the rest of us, I am sick.

[00:31:57] Like the rest of you, who everyone who's listening to this and everyone who's ever thought about

[00:32:01] it and wants to make comics, we're all sick in the head, but it's the best type of sick

[00:32:07] we'll have.

[00:32:08] I think because it's everything I've talked about was just being wanting to leave your mark.

[00:32:14] I don't know.

[00:32:17] It's inspiring in that way.

[00:32:18] That makes sense.

[00:32:19] Just like, I want to keep doing this.

[00:32:21] And it's like the feeling of creating like this and being responsible for putting together

[00:32:27] a team and just working so collaboratively with people.

[00:32:34] It's like a different way to look at life too.

[00:32:37] It's just like, wow, everyone is coming together just in this really communal way to get this

[00:32:43] final project out there into the world.

[00:32:46] So it's just a really, I like working with people a lot.

[00:32:49] So I think that's what is preventing me from being one and done.

[00:32:53] Yeah.

[00:32:54] No, I mean, and I, the aspect of it that I like is, you know, depending on the type of

[00:33:00] job you have, you, you know, unless you're solitary, like in a building all by yourself,

[00:33:06] if you go to an office somewhere every day, you know, you work with people and a lot of

[00:33:14] whatever the company's making, whatever it is you're doing, you know, but there is a

[00:33:19] little, some, there is a little something different about when you have a creative product

[00:33:24] project.

[00:33:25] And at the, the end you can kind of like, there's a thing you can point to, you know, it's

[00:33:32] like, yeah, we, we all, we all work together to create this thing.

[00:33:36] And like, here it is.

[00:33:38] It like exists in the world now.

[00:33:40] I don't know.

[00:33:41] Maybe I'm trying to make it more than it is, but no, it sounds.

[00:33:44] Yeah.

[00:33:45] It sounds like whenever you describe it, and I feel like this too, like you're over,

[00:33:48] you're over romanticizing it, but like, that's just what it is.

[00:33:52] And to be able to like, to point at and hold a actual copy of a comic book that you had a

[00:33:59] part in making, it's just, it blows my mind.

[00:34:02] And it's just like, I want to keep, I want to keep doing that.

[00:34:05] Right.

[00:34:06] I want to keep on having that feeling.

[00:34:08] I want to chase, you know, just chasing that.

[00:34:10] Yeah.

[00:34:11] Right.

[00:34:11] Exactly.

[00:34:11] Exactly.

[00:34:12] Um, as a fan of comics, have you been to, um, have you been to any like comic conventions,

[00:34:18] uh, in the area?

[00:34:20] Like my, my brother and I, for the past couple of years, we go to, uh, to Baltimore every

[00:34:24] year with huge fans of Baltimore, uh, Comic-Con, which is coming up as we record this.

[00:34:29] It's coming up in a few weeks, but, um, are you a convention goer?

[00:34:33] Yeah.

[00:34:34] Yeah.

[00:34:34] I, I've been to Philly Fan Expo a good amount of times.

[00:34:37] I've been to Philadelphia Comic-Con, which is like a different con that they've had.

[00:34:42] Um, I've been to like some like comic shows in Jersey, like where they're selling stuff

[00:34:47] and have some like smaller name, uh, people there selling their stuff.

[00:34:50] Um, I was like, I was at Baltimore last year too.

[00:34:53] Oh, okay.

[00:34:54] I'm going, I'm going again this year and I can't wait.

[00:34:56] Cause it's just fun.

[00:34:57] Like talking with all like the pros there, just, uh, get like didn't hear what they have

[00:35:04] to say about, like I met Tom Kane last year and it was incredible just talking to him about

[00:35:08] stuff.

[00:35:08] And I met Doc Shaner and talking to him about war comics and his, uh, his time on train

[00:35:16] adventures with Tom King.

[00:35:17] So it was just, it's like the things you don't get elsewhere.

[00:35:21] So yeah.

[00:35:22] Yeah.

[00:35:22] I'm a big fan of big fan of cons and finding little hidden treasures at all the

[00:35:26] sellers there too.

[00:35:27] Oh yeah.

[00:35:28] Yeah.

[00:35:28] Well, hopefully we'll see each other at, uh, I'll be there Friday and Saturday.

[00:35:34] Uh, I'm going Saturday.

[00:35:35] Nice.

[00:35:37] So yeah, you'll, we'll have to, uh, we'll have to figure out a time to meet and say

[00:35:41] hi.

[00:35:41] And then, you know, next time you go to one of these, you'll be able to hand out

[00:35:45] issues of, of milk run to editors and you know, uh, that's the plan.

[00:35:51] I'm just like, come on, let's get those.

[00:35:54] Right.

[00:35:54] Let's get those comps in early.

[00:35:56] I mean, Tom, I mean this year at Baltimore, I think Tom Brevoort's going to be there from,

[00:36:00] from Marvel, you know, got to try and slip them a PDF.

[00:36:04] And, uh, there actually are some, some fun editors that are going to be at Baltimore this

[00:36:09] year.

[00:36:10] Uh, that's, that's good to know.

[00:36:11] It's good to know.

[00:36:11] Yeah.

[00:36:12] Start scheming.

[00:36:12] But yeah.

[00:36:14] Yeah.

[00:36:14] Yeah.

[00:36:14] Well, I think James, uh, your editor, James was there last year with the, the man cave

[00:36:19] and maverick booth.

[00:36:21] Yeah.

[00:36:21] That was, it was cool getting like, we've had so many phone calls over the last couple of

[00:36:25] years.

[00:36:26] It was so nice to like meet in person and just, you know, again, express my gratitude for

[00:36:30] his help.

[00:36:31] Yeah.

[00:36:33] Me a novice, uh, at the time.

[00:36:36] So I'm still a novice at this point with creating the comic book writing, but just being like,

[00:36:42] Hey, thanks so much.

[00:36:44] I wouldn't be here and like feeling this way without you.

[00:36:47] That's awesome.

[00:36:48] Yeah.

[00:36:49] Um, but you, you mentioned meeting like, uh, Tom King and, and, uh, uh, uh, doc

[00:36:54] shaner.

[00:36:54] Um, are there other writers that you, um, you know, really look to and in, in terms of their

[00:37:01] work where you're like, Oh, this comic was something else, you know, that, um, uh, have

[00:37:07] kind of inspired you to take the leap from fan to now comic book writer.

[00:37:13] It's a good question.

[00:37:14] Yeah.

[00:37:15] I really enjoy Ryan Parrott, uh, power Rangers when he was on that with boom and just the

[00:37:21] way he writes dialogue was very inspirational to me.

[00:37:25] Like I wanted to follow that suit of just like, these are people talking just believable that

[00:37:30] they're talking.

[00:37:32] Um, cause I think sometimes you can read stuff.

[00:37:34] It's like, do people really talk like that?

[00:37:36] It's like, kind of will take me out sometimes, but I'm just like, I want to, I would like

[00:37:41] get in my head.

[00:37:41] Like, I don't want that to happen to readers of my stuff.

[00:37:45] So it's like reading his books was like, Oh, I like how he does his dialogue and he has

[00:37:51] a rule for drawing action or writing an action scenes.

[00:37:55] It's like, they have to tell a story.

[00:37:57] Like it just can't be like action for action sake, even though that it works sometimes.

[00:38:00] Like, yeah, he wants it to, you know, somehow advance the plot or comment on.

[00:38:07] Exactly.

[00:38:07] Yeah.

[00:38:09] Yeah.

[00:38:10] Yeah.

[00:38:11] Other than that, Bill Kennedy Johnson's another one just in terms of like how much detail

[00:38:16] he puts into his work.

[00:38:17] Yeah.

[00:38:19] Um, he's just someone I look to and I talked to him a lot last year at Baltimore and then

[00:38:25] two years before at Philly Fan Expo, just about what I was doing.

[00:38:28] And he was very supportive and, uh, you know, he was willing to look at stuff at that point

[00:38:34] too.

[00:38:35] It was just like, uh, to give feedback from that perspective.

[00:38:38] So appreciate just like being able to talk to someone and just feel like I'm not alone

[00:38:44] in the endeavor.

[00:38:47] Yeah.

[00:38:47] I mean, I, I, somebody had a tweet today, actually, I think it was Sebastian Gurner.

[00:38:55] Um, I might be wrong, but I think that's who it was who said, you know, made a comment about

[00:38:59] getting like big time by like a, like a, a comic creator, you know, and there were a bunch

[00:39:05] of comments on it, like there's no place for that in the industry and this and that.

[00:39:10] And, and I agree.

[00:39:12] And I found that most folks that I talked to are very, you know, very, very kind, very generous

[00:39:19] of their time, you know, but, you know, or like your experience with, uh, with Philip

[00:39:24] Kennedy Johnson, where they, you know, are very welcoming into the industry.

[00:39:30] They're not trying to like close the door behind them.

[00:39:32] I think that's why it's always like so upsetting when you see somebody put something like

[00:39:35] that, especially somebody like, you know, Sebastian, who's done like a ton of stuff in the industry

[00:39:40] and is, um, I guess now has his, uh, his own kind of label with, I always want to say

[00:39:46] it's flying goats press, but I think it's goats flying press.

[00:39:50] I know the one you're talking about.

[00:39:51] Yeah.

[00:39:51] He kickstarted something recently, the dead and the damned.

[00:39:54] I think it's right over here to my left, but, um, he was on that shirtless bear fighter

[00:39:59] that I liked from a few years ago.

[00:40:02] But yeah, but I, I mean, I found that most creators are very kind and very willing to share

[00:40:08] their time and knowledge and, you know, expertise.

[00:40:12] So it's nice that you had that experience.

[00:40:14] Yeah.

[00:40:15] And it's like, hopefully you'll continue to this year, you know?

[00:40:17] Yeah.

[00:40:17] It's motivated me to like also be in that way of just like talking to people about the process

[00:40:22] of just like, I want it to be transparent.

[00:40:25] Like, yes, this is a lot of work, a lot of like time.

[00:40:28] And if you're going to like self-fund it, it's going to be a lot of money.

[00:40:32] It's like a lot to like invest in, but if you really want to do it, you should try to

[00:40:39] do it in any way possible that meets your needs of life, like be kickstarting or a publisher

[00:40:45] that will take that load off of you or doing it yourself, but also just being there for people

[00:40:51] to, you know, Hey, I have this idea.

[00:40:54] Do you want to, can you help me?

[00:40:55] Like, tell me what you think.

[00:40:56] It's like, yeah, sure.

[00:40:57] I'll take a look or here's my pitch for milk run that got accepted.

[00:41:04] Maybe take a look at it.

[00:41:05] If you want to use some, like use this type of format for your own pitch and then make

[00:41:11] it work for you.

[00:41:11] And then just like that type of support that is bred from those positive interactions with

[00:41:18] those established pros who have already done so much, you know?

[00:41:22] Right.

[00:41:23] Yeah.

[00:41:23] And I love the title too, by the way, I wanted to mention that.

[00:41:27] I mean, you know, titles are, are important, like hugely important.

[00:41:32] I think a bad title can kind of ruin something.

[00:41:34] And I think a good title can elevate something that maybe isn't as great, but I really like just

[00:41:40] the idea of, uh, of, uh, of, of milk run.

[00:41:44] Um, but yeah, like the title.

[00:41:46] And so, um, yeah, I can't wait for folks to get it and, and read it.

[00:41:51] And, um, yeah, I, I just thought it was a lot of fun and, uh, I can't wait to see where

[00:41:57] it goes because the tone of it, I really thought kind of changes as it goes on.

[00:42:02] Um, and, um, excited to see, you know, where it goes, uh, with issues two and three.

[00:42:09] So I, I, I super enjoyed it.

[00:42:12] Yeah.

[00:42:12] Um, it makes me so happy to hear you say that just cause it's you.

[00:42:16] So I'm just like, ah, Jimmy liked it.

[00:42:18] So it's just like, that makes me feel good.

[00:42:20] Yeah.

[00:42:21] Um, I think that's giving me too much credit, but I appreciate it.

[00:42:24] I think you're very influential.

[00:42:26] Well, that's sure.

[00:42:28] From if you say so, I'll, uh, I'll take your word for it.

[00:42:32] All right.

[00:42:32] So, um, before I let you go, uh, since you are from the Philly area, I feel like we should

[00:42:38] talk about like some Philly stuff.

[00:42:40] So you're a Philly sports fan.

[00:42:42] Um, I'm not so much like huge into like following major league sports, but if I'm going to root

[00:42:49] for, yeah, if I'm going to root for anyone, it's go birds.

[00:42:53] It's dot, you know, go Phil's 76ers all the way.

[00:42:57] Like I don't care about anyone else.

[00:43:00] Right.

[00:43:00] I said it.

[00:43:01] I'm not, I like, I do follow, I follow the Eagles mostly.

[00:43:05] Um, but I'll go to a Phillies game and my wife loves the Phillies.

[00:43:09] So the Phillies are usually like, it's like the food network or the Phillies that are on

[00:43:13] in the house.

[00:43:14] But I was thinking about that today.

[00:43:15] I'm like, Oh, I should ask like some, some Phillies questions or talk about some Phillies

[00:43:19] stuff.

[00:43:19] And I'm like, man, I don't feel motivated.

[00:43:21] Don't feel the need to.

[00:43:23] He's a sports fan.

[00:43:25] I will be like, Oh, I just brought that up as kind of a bit.

[00:43:29] I really don't know.

[00:43:30] I'm excited for football to start.

[00:43:32] Uh, I like the season.

[00:43:33] I just like the, I like the, you know, you can feel in the air when we're doing good

[00:43:37] feeling, you know, we're doing bad.

[00:43:39] It's I'm here for it.

[00:43:41] I mean, I do like the Philly sports fan.

[00:43:44] I like the, I, I, I do like going to the games.

[00:43:47] I like the atmosphere last year.

[00:43:48] My wife and I went to one of the playoff games.

[00:43:52] Um, and it was, it was a lot of fun.

[00:43:54] It was, it was very enjoyable.

[00:43:56] Um, but so you said you're, you're, you're in Philly now.

[00:44:02] Um, do you in, you know, in terms of Philly, like, you know, you set the comic in Philly

[00:44:08] and Philly and like in pop culture, do you get a lot of like, are you into like, other

[00:44:14] than the sports teams, like a lot of Philly stuff?

[00:44:16] Like, do you think like, as you do more interviews, you'll get asked like your favorite

[00:44:21] cheesesteak place and, uh, like I'd like to have an answer for that just because I'm

[00:44:27] here.

[00:44:28] If I have to go like niche with it, since I'm in Maniunk, it's a little bit far from everything,

[00:44:32] but there's a really good cheesesteak at pitcher's pub.

[00:44:35] Jeff big rude makes a really good cheesesteak there.

[00:44:37] I recommend that one.

[00:44:39] There you go.

[00:44:40] Yeah.

[00:44:40] A local recommendation for folks that are in Maniunk.

[00:44:44] Uh, which is kind of, I mean, Maniunk is Philadelphia, but it's like across the river

[00:44:50] from Philly proper.

[00:44:53] Yeah.

[00:44:53] Yeah.

[00:44:53] For, for any listeners who are not familiar with the geography of, uh, of Philadelphia.

[00:44:59] But, um, yeah, whenever I talk to, I ever, once in a while that conversation will come

[00:45:04] up and I'm like, yeah, my favorite cheese, like I went to St. Joe's and then temple for law

[00:45:10] school and I've eaten at probably almost every cheesesteak place in Philly.

[00:45:13] And my favorite cheesesteak is right down the street in like North Wilmington and in Delaware.

[00:45:18] Ooh.

[00:45:19] Uh, called from a place called pickles and chips.

[00:45:21] It's a Kevin's original.

[00:45:23] And it has, uh, it's actually a chicken cheesesteak with, uh, fried onions, mayonnaise and extra black

[00:45:29] pepper.

[00:45:30] And it's my absolute, interesting, my absolute favorite.

[00:45:34] That sounds good.

[00:45:34] You know, I'm never really one to knock any food in particular.

[00:45:38] I'm always down to try anything.

[00:45:40] So.

[00:45:42] Yeah.

[00:45:42] Count me in for something like that.

[00:45:44] Yeah.

[00:45:44] I, I love, I, I mean, I, I love Philly though.

[00:45:46] I love whenever I get to go up there and I love the, the Philadelphia food scene.

[00:45:51] I think from when I worked in, cause I work in Wilmington now from when I worked in Philly,

[00:45:55] the thing I miss the most about Philadelphia is lunchtime.

[00:45:59] Cause I, I used to work at 15th and JFK.

[00:46:02] So I was like two blocks from the new, from the, when they built the Comcast center, which

[00:46:06] had a great food court in it.

[00:46:08] And I was like, or maybe three or four blocks.

[00:46:11] And then I was like two or three blocks really from like Reading terminal market.

[00:46:16] Oh, and I'm, that's like a promised land right there.

[00:46:20] Oh yeah.

[00:46:20] I mean, that was just wonderful living near that place.

[00:46:26] Yeah.

[00:46:27] Whether it was a Danix sandwich or a Termini brothers cannoli, dude, I'm hungry now.

[00:46:32] Yeah.

[00:46:33] I love a, a violers donut from there.

[00:46:35] Oh yeah.

[00:46:36] Oh yeah.

[00:46:36] Those places are great.

[00:46:38] Um, it's like stuff like that, that really made me want to set it in Philly just because

[00:46:43] I've grown so accustomed to it.

[00:46:45] My girlfriend went to college in the city too.

[00:46:47] So I spent a lot of time here, um, like on my time off and then after, uh, school too,

[00:46:54] when she was still here working.

[00:46:56] So it was just like at that point, like, Oh, this is the best place on earth.

[00:47:00] I have to just like make this my personality.

[00:47:04] And it's just like, Oh man, I'll just make a comic set in Philly.

[00:47:07] Like why not make this idea with the, uh, the time travel set in Philly, you know, at

[00:47:14] first I was like, could I do something with like going further back in time?

[00:47:17] Like, you know, Philly's full of history.

[00:47:19] You can go to independence hall and go to, um, Betsy Ross's house.

[00:47:25] You can go to Elfrith alley.

[00:47:26] You can go to Franklin's house.

[00:47:28] You go to all these places.

[00:47:28] I'm like, Oh, that's a little too much.

[00:47:30] Like in terms of like what I want to do is getting, getting, losing the plot of like,

[00:47:35] I don't need to go back that far to get fresh milk and eggs.

[00:47:38] Right.

[00:47:39] No, I, I, I think it's great though, that it's so like limited because it's like one of

[00:47:43] it's just.

[00:47:45] Cause you think about time travel, like one of like the, the ultimate kind of like powers

[00:47:51] to be able to, to somehow master time.

[00:47:53] And you can own, you can, he can only go back like so far.

[00:47:57] And it's just like, well, what can I do with this?

[00:48:01] That was the thing.

[00:48:01] Like, yeah, I, I think that type of limitate that, that type of like limitation though,

[00:48:09] rather than being a hindrance, I think is kind of so fun.

[00:48:13] Yeah.

[00:48:13] I thought, I think that's like what drew me more to the story is like when I, once I locked

[00:48:18] in and just like, okay, he has to have some type of limit.

[00:48:20] Either he only can only stay for so long or he can only go back so far.

[00:48:26] So I'm like, I'll use both of those.

[00:48:27] Cause that's makes it more of a time crunch when he has to do stuff back there and he can't

[00:48:33] dawdle.

[00:48:33] He can't mess around and do anything.

[00:48:35] So he has to go back, get his groceries, get back and then store everything in the fridge

[00:48:41] all within like the amount of times who doesn't write himself.

[00:48:44] And then it's, and I mean, I, you have a line in there because it's like, well, what,

[00:48:49] wait, what is he doing?

[00:48:50] Like he's going, he's going, cause I was reading it.

[00:48:54] I'm like, wait, what is he doing?

[00:48:55] Like he's going back in time.

[00:48:58] Cause I guess cause groceries are cheaper.

[00:49:00] And then like, he, he says it like, there's like a few panels later.

[00:49:03] He goes, yeah.

[00:49:03] So this is, I guess I saved like 25 bucks today.

[00:49:07] Yeah.

[00:49:07] Yeah.

[00:49:08] It's just like compared to set the comic in 2021.

[00:49:12] I was just like compared like 2021 times to 2011.

[00:49:15] I'm like, it's cheaper.

[00:49:16] He's not saving a whole lot of money, but he's putting that away and he's just like, nice.

[00:49:20] I made out great today, guys.

[00:49:22] Time to pop back online, see what I work.

[00:49:25] I miss when I jumped back in time to do my grocery shopping.

[00:49:28] Saved a couple bucks.

[00:49:29] Yeah.

[00:49:29] That's just, yeah.

[00:49:31] I can't wait for folks to read it.

[00:49:33] Um, and I, I myself can't wait for issues, uh, two or three, but, um, yeah.

[00:49:41] So it's with scout comics, it's coming out that, um, I guess that last, uh, Wednesday

[00:49:48] in November, you said the 27th.

[00:49:50] Yeah.

[00:49:50] That's the, that's the date they're shooting for right now.

[00:49:53] So, all right.

[00:49:54] Well, um, so listeners be on the lookout for it though.

[00:49:58] You'll be able to tell your local shop that you want it.

[00:50:01] Um, you know, some shops carry scout comics, um, carry independent publishers.

[00:50:06] Some shops don't.

[00:50:07] So if you want to get it, make sure you let your local shop know to add it to your pull

[00:50:11] list or to, to make sure that they order a copy from the distributor.

[00:50:14] That's the number one way to make sure that you get the comics that you want.

[00:50:19] Um, and especially if you want to see more, you know, comics that aren't from a Marvel

[00:50:25] or DC on the shelves, you got to, whether or not it's scout or mad cave or vault, you

[00:50:31] know, you got to tell or tell the shop that you want to make sure you have a copy of it.

[00:50:36] Yeah.

[00:50:36] And, um, there's just all these indie books out there for everyone.

[00:50:39] He's got to ask for them.

[00:50:42] We'll be there.

[00:50:43] Yeah.

[00:50:44] Yeah.

[00:50:45] I mean, the shops want to order them for you.

[00:50:47] They want to make sure you get the comics you want to read and milk one milk run is

[00:50:51] one that you are definitely, uh, going to want to read.

[00:50:55] Trust me.

[00:50:55] I absolutely, I absolutely loved it.

[00:50:58] Um, but Brian, this has been great.

[00:51:00] So thanks so much for coming on and talking to me about milk run.

[00:51:03] And, and, and hopefully, I mean, by the time this podcast comes out, it'll, it'll

[00:51:06] probably be past Baltimore, but, um, hopefully you and I can, uh, can connect and say hi to

[00:51:12] each other in, uh, at Baltimore comic-con.

[00:51:15] Yeah.

[00:51:15] Well, to plan it out.

[00:51:16] Um, just once again, Jimmy, just thank you so much for having me on.

[00:51:20] It's been an honor just to come on here and talk about the book with you and just jam on

[00:51:23] some Philly stuff too.

[00:51:24] Of course.

[00:51:27] Yes.

[00:51:27] Yeah.

[00:51:28] Well, I, I really appreciate you coming on and saying all those nice things about, uh,

[00:51:32] me and the podcast.

[00:51:33] I don't, I don't, I don't fully believe, but I'll let, I'll allow it.

[00:51:37] I'll allow it.

[00:51:38] Well, I've got to see like the side chat that you sent me before.

[00:51:41] I think I caught the script pretty well, but yeah, that's right.

[00:51:45] You got to say all the right things or you don't, you don't ever come back.

[00:51:50] Uh, all right.

[00:51:52] Well, uh, listeners, thank you for listening.

[00:51:54] It's milk run.

[00:51:55] It's Brian real scout comics.

[00:51:58] And, uh, thank you so much for listening.

[00:52:00] Uh, shout out to my brother, Bobby, whose name came up a few times.

[00:52:02] He's the cryptic creator corner.

[00:52:04] Number one, most dedicated fan.

[00:52:05] And he listens to all the episodes and, uh, he'll be in Baltimore with me.

[00:52:10] So, um, you'll probably meet him too, Brian.

[00:52:12] He's like, uh, I can't wait.

[00:52:14] All right.

[00:52:15] Uh, well, thank you very much listeners.

[00:52:17] Thanks for listening.

[00:52:18] Uh, let me know what it is you're reading and I'll see you next time.

[00:52:22] Good night.

[00:52:23] Thank you.

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