Matt McGrath talks ID-10t Error

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[00:01:24] Hello and welcome to comic book Yeti's Cryptid Creator Corner

[00:01:27] I'm one of your hosts Jimmy Gasparo and I have a guest with me tonight that we did a written interview

[00:01:33] Before some time ago. This is the first time that I believe this young man is on the podcast

[00:01:37] And he is the writer and co-creator of idiot error and as you're listening to this

[00:01:43] Issue three which I think is the big conclusion to this story is going to be out on Kickstarter

[00:01:48] Starting August 6th. You're gonna be able to go to the link in the show notes and check it out and back it

[00:01:54] We're gonna talk about it today, but please welcome to the podcast Matt McGrath Matt. How you doing?

[00:02:01] Hey, thanks for having me glad to be here. Yeah, no problem. Um, so

[00:02:06] this is

[00:02:08] It is our issue three you've previously kickstarted issues one and two I think in

[00:02:14] 2021 and 2022 respectively

[00:02:17] sounds right. Yeah

[00:02:19] And also we were just talking about before I started recording you did everyday fears

[00:02:24] Which I think was like a six-story horror anthology

[00:02:27] That you'd put together which I just I had backed and didn't get a chance to read the interview gave me an excuse to finally

[00:02:34] Do that really really enjoyed it

[00:02:36] but I really like

[00:02:39] I

[00:02:39] Really like idiot error. I mean this is a kind of a your take on a you've described it as a black mirror

[00:02:45] Ask revenge tail

[00:02:48] So why don't we just get into just tell me before we get into you know where we've been with two and with one and two

[00:02:55] Kind of tell our listeners who might not be familiar with it. What is idiot error all about? Sure, so I

[00:03:05] Still really like to give away the big kind of reveal an issue one

[00:03:09] Just in case people like want to jump on and read the whole thing, you know

[00:03:12] I got new readers but we can dance around

[00:03:14] Yeah, we'll beat around beat around it. It's it's about it's a weird twisted Frankenstein story

[00:03:21] Like like Frankenstein isn't already twisted but even more twisted where

[00:03:27] the

[00:03:27] The man a man called Bradley he creates an AI robot in his basement like a complete

[00:03:35] miracle

[00:03:37] And the reason he that creates this robot is to destroy it

[00:03:43] And so naturally, you know the AI robot gaining consciousness isn't really into that idea

[00:03:49] So it's lighter fight reaction kind of kicks in and it goes into survival mode

[00:03:54] And it does everything it can to kind of escape this scenario. So kind of like a saw

[00:03:58] I feel to it the first issue is kind of like a chamber drama. It's all set in one location

[00:04:05] Yeah

[00:04:05] It's about the AI trying to get out of this basement away from this insane person and you know, they're twisting turns from there

[00:04:12] Right and then issue two is the AI

[00:04:15] You know out in the world and it's kind of thinking like what do I do next?

[00:04:21] issue moments all about survival issue two is a little bit more about you know

[00:04:26] What is my purpose in life? What am I who am I all those kind of fundamental?

[00:04:32] No

[00:04:34] Existential questions is asking and yeah, so issue three is last one it concludes a story

[00:04:41] You know issue one and two probably from my description you can tell it's a little bit weird

[00:04:47] Issue three gets even weirder from there. It goes into like all sorts of crazy spots

[00:04:56] Yeah, like it's a lot more action packed of the three issues

[00:05:01] So I'm excited to dig into those aspects of it. Oh

[00:05:07] Well, that's interesting to hear in terms of being more action pack because I thought issue two

[00:05:12] Because issue two is kind of split you like the first part of issue two is like a much different setting

[00:05:17] And then we kind of get back out into

[00:05:21] Into the world. I guess I guess in Toronto is I think where it's where it's set

[00:05:27] And I cook that there was quite a bit of of action in issue two when you like opened up the world a little more

[00:05:34] I mean there's there's there's a number of things in issue one, but yeah, it is all kind of like self-contained

[00:05:42] And yeah, just to mention the rest of the creative theme

[00:05:47] It's illustrated by Octavio Colino colored by Kay Woolhizer and

[00:05:54] lettered by Frank

[00:05:56] said Kovac I

[00:05:59] Think that's also the same creative team that you have throughout and I mean

[00:06:03] I love the art in it and especially and I think I mentioned this when we did the written interview in April of 22

[00:06:09] I I love the colors in issue one did not disappoint in in issue two. So I can't wait to see

[00:06:17] Where things go in issue three and see what happens to my to burpo

[00:06:22] Which is like a little Furby like toy that kind of has a kind of a friend's

[00:06:29] You know

[00:06:31] And

[00:06:35] Little character, but

[00:06:39] Oh, yeah, I mean yeah, I was so fortunate to work with Kay

[00:06:44] Um, I just I don't know. I just kind of

[00:06:47] When I did ID 10 to year is my first comic that I was gonna produce by myself

[00:06:53] So I do I've done some anthology before that

[00:06:55] But it's very kind of like hand-holding like I just submit a script and then the editors kind of found the artist the colorists

[00:07:02] The letter all that I have to do anything other than write the script. So this is you know, my

[00:07:07] My first time kind of project managing so I just went into Twitter and typed in comic colorist

[00:07:14] And like hers was like one of the first things I saw and like instantly go. Oh my god, I gotta reach out and

[00:07:21] Said yes and rest of history like she's extremely busy now

[00:07:26] So there I was a little bit worried that she wasn't gonna be able to do issue three. She's um

[00:07:32] He's like she's an illustrator and a comic artist. So she's doing a

[00:07:37] Series now on Kickstarter. I think one campaign just ended. It's called dragon grit

[00:07:44] That was really cool. It's like Western with

[00:07:47] All the cowboys instead of riding horses. They ride dragons right love that. Yeah, right?

[00:07:54] She's doing that

[00:07:56] But yeah, I try to be like as flexible as possible and my scheduling to allow her to you know

[00:08:04] The time to still color this so though she's still on board and um, yeah

[00:08:09] Uh

[00:08:11] Super super creative talented team like Frank as well amazing

[00:08:15] letter at again, I just like saw his stuff on Twitter type it in letter and

[00:08:21] Is his work instantly grabbed me how unique and I

[00:08:27] Don't know how yeah

[00:08:28] I'm just like how unique is each each issue he works on is like every time

[00:08:34] He works on a new series you can see like his lettering is a little bit different the style the style of the letters and the balloons

[00:08:42] Are all really I don't know carefully thought through

[00:08:47] So yeah, and obviously a tapio a master of I think

[00:08:53] Facial acting and action

[00:08:55] I think his

[00:08:58] reactions for Bradley is

[00:09:01] Some of the best stuff in the book for sure. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say like his you know one

[00:09:08] Number one like his stuff for Bradley and especially an issue too because there's a couple of like really close up panels and he really captures

[00:09:17] like

[00:09:18] It's it's almost a

[00:09:21] Caricature of Bradley but not quite it still maintains that like realism that you tend to lose with like an exaggerated

[00:09:28] caricature

[00:09:30] But it does he does such a nice job and to you know, whenever you have a character that's like a robot or AI or something

[00:09:37] Along those lines or even a monster that's that's not you know, it doesn't have human features

[00:09:43] I think it's it's got to be really tough to nail

[00:09:46] Like that sense of emotion when you're dealing with features that like aren't human but in particular with with a robot

[00:09:54] And he really does try to bring

[00:09:57] Some you know from some sense of that to the robot which has to be you know difficult to do it's not just flat, you know

[00:10:05] Yeah, yeah, that's a good point

[00:10:07] I never really thought about that before because like the robots face is just like the static mask and then two eyeballs and then

[00:10:15] Kind of like teeth so there's no

[00:10:18] Way for it to really emote that much physically but he's

[00:10:23] Yeah, he's really good at just I don't know doing slight little changes to

[00:10:27] Make you know, I look sad or happy or you know

[00:10:31] You can't change the face per se you can do different angles or like stuff with the shadowing and lighting and stuff like that

[00:10:39] But yeah, I'd never noticed that I guess

[00:10:42] Yeah

[00:10:44] Natural at it

[00:10:45] He does a lot with the eyes

[00:10:47] I feel like he does a lot with the eyes and a lot with the space to try and convey

[00:10:52] You know something on on the page

[00:10:56] Body language to I guess what does that as well? Yeah

[00:11:00] You mentioned when you started talking about it

[00:11:03] In terms of comparisons to like, you know Frankenstein the scientist the doctor creates the monster

[00:11:10] Was that kind of like was that the beginning like impetus for this the idea of Frankenstein or

[00:11:15] Was it more AI?

[00:11:18] Or you know somebody creating something in order to destroy it and then you kind of like worked your way into

[00:11:24] You know some slight Frankenstein comparisons

[00:11:28] Yeah, no, I guess Frankenstein

[00:11:30] And I naturally came out of the idea. I've had this idea since

[00:11:38] And since I don't know since I was in university so like maybe 15 16 years

[00:11:44] Okay

[00:11:45] Yeah, so so like in university. I was very much obsessed with like filmmaking

[00:11:49] So I thought maybe like I'm gonna make it into a short film

[00:11:53] then I kind of I'd always been interested in like acting in theater, so I kind of drifted away from

[00:12:00] Filmmaking and later on it's like maybe I'll turn it into a play

[00:12:05] Yeah, so I maybe I just make like that's kind of the reason why the robot is so like low-tech

[00:12:10] I thought you know what with limited budget I would have to make a very robot with just like junk that you'd find around the house

[00:12:17] Right. That's also like the reason why

[00:12:20] It's all set in one location the first issue because it was originally like

[00:12:25] Gonna be like a one-act play. Oh, yeah

[00:12:28] You can just put up a couple of flats and you know some furniture and you got your set

[00:12:32] You need like yeah, but kind of a torture chair and you're good to go a two-hander. Yeah, absolutely

[00:12:40] Yeah, so

[00:12:41] Yeah, so that's where it kind of started. I guess the idea is without kind of giving away the kind of big reveal an issue one was just

[00:12:49] frustrations with

[00:12:51] technology

[00:12:53] like that we've all experienced and

[00:12:57] You know when something goes terribly wrong with your laptop or your phone or your car or something and it

[00:13:03] completely ruins your day and

[00:13:05] have

[00:13:06] All that anger and pent up the motion and you just want to scream and yell at your

[00:13:13] computer, but it's you know, just

[00:13:16] It's an animate object that it's unable to

[00:13:19] Know how badly it screwed you over. So right?

[00:13:24] Yeah, I think like in university. I was working late on an essay and my computer crashed

[00:13:30] And I lost like half the thing so

[00:13:33] Um the idea just kind of spun out of there of revenge against technology

[00:13:37] but the

[00:13:39] The most useless form of revenge, I guess taking taking taking it to the absolute extreme

[00:13:45] Yeah

[00:13:46] Well, that's what makes the idea so good because on that that one level it's something everyone can you know relate to

[00:13:54] Yeah, whether or not your car won't start whether or not your laptop crashes whether or not your phone

[00:14:01] You know glitches or whatever the situation is everyone has that I think well most people maybe not everyone but I think most people have that

[00:14:10] Relationship with technology when it doesn't work or it goes wrong Bradley does just take it to you know a really

[00:14:17] unwell place

[00:14:20] That's what I yeah, I know that's where I think like the comedy

[00:14:24] Comes from or why I think of it as a comedy because it's not a book with like a ton of like

[00:14:31] Jokes joke jokes, but I think just the situation itself is so absurd it kind of lends itself to the comedy and yeah

[00:14:39] You know like when we aren't our phone dies on us

[00:14:42] We're set for like, you know 30 seconds and then we kind of get over it, but this guy

[00:14:47] held on to this grudge for

[00:14:50] Years and years and it defined his life and um

[00:14:54] Yeah, that's funny and also pathetic and I don't makes for good

[00:14:59] You make for good reading I guess. Oh, yeah, no it does. I mean and you know after the events of issue

[00:15:08] One and issue two starts we see Bradley in a different setting in the like Roboto company and

[00:15:17] But but still once again, I loved how I

[00:15:21] Don't think this is given anything away

[00:15:23] But I love how issue two opened and he's just like screaming

[00:15:27] obscenities at like a pinball machine

[00:15:30] I just felt like with such a great way to

[00:15:34] Like if you hadn't read and I just had you know re-read them again

[00:15:38] So I had the luxury of reading them back to back

[00:15:40] But if you if you hadn't read issue one in a while, you know between kick starters

[00:15:45] Just what a great little way to introduce

[00:15:49] Bradley's character by having him just

[00:15:52] Just go nuts in an office setting at a pinball machine at a place he did not work at

[00:15:59] Just like because I

[00:16:02] Think his first line is eat my ass and yeah

[00:16:07] Page one panel one just like in giant letters from Frank. Yeah, I asked

[00:16:11] Yeah, I love that opening

[00:16:14] Yeah, yeah, it was so good and

[00:16:19] Yeah, I loved seeing

[00:16:22] I love seeing the robot out in the world. I love the introduction of

[00:16:27] Is it uncle Oliver?

[00:16:30] Cool. Yeah, I'm called Oliver. Yeah

[00:16:32] Yeah was was another like nice nice little touch because you like it's a great way that you learn

[00:16:41] like

[00:16:42] having

[00:16:43] That character in there and having to kind of go along on a little journey with with Bradley

[00:16:49] Yeah, you you learn so much about Bradley in their interaction and that and that dialogue

[00:16:55] Like it's such a great way to continue to discover things about

[00:16:59] You know this guy because really we see a little bit of Bradley in issue one and

[00:17:06] Kind of like what led him to the situation we find him in but like you really get a lot more Bradley's backstory and I you know, it's

[00:17:18] I

[00:17:19] Think a lot of yourself Bradley's own making, you know, definitely one of these guys that can't do anything to help himself

[00:17:27] That's that is the tragedy of the character. I think is

[00:17:32] You know

[00:17:34] He's given kind of every chance possible like he's got a pretty easy life

[00:17:40] But he's miserable because you know, he just makes things hard on himself for yeah

[00:17:45] He has this anger that he can't let go of

[00:17:47] Yeah fun fact about uncle Oliver that is that's kind of the reason why I did issue two

[00:17:55] Or like originally issue one was just it was just supposed to be a one and done like story was just supposed to end there

[00:18:04] Okay

[00:18:05] Yeah, but when I was doing the Kickstarter for issue one

[00:18:08] It's kind of like thinking about a little bit more and just the thought of like

[00:18:12] What if there was somebody else in the house while you know Bradley was being

[00:18:17] Exficiated by the fumes and he just kind of forgot about that other person in there

[00:18:23] And only one to kind of save them just to get a drive or whatever

[00:18:27] So just that one kind of stupid gag of what if somebody else was in the house and Bradley didn't really care

[00:18:34] Kind of got the wheels turning and you know

[00:18:38] You know

[00:18:40] No, he's got to get them out and what is he from there?

[00:18:42] I guess he's got to go catch the robot and what happens then and blah blah blah

[00:18:46] And it all just kind of came spilling out from there. So

[00:18:49] Yeah, if it wasn't for that thought uncle Oliver then might not have been an issue too

[00:18:54] It might have just been the one and done

[00:18:57] Once you did that though once you decide, you know, you have that idea and you decide to

[00:19:02] Kind of start to build out like issue two

[00:19:07] Did you like

[00:19:09] Instantly see that it had to be three or was it the same thing like you thought oh well

[00:19:16] Yeah, so yeah, it was supposed to be I was gonna do a lot more with it

[00:19:22] So issue two would have been like I

[00:19:26] Wanted issue two to be like the issue two and then three but it got the story got too big

[00:19:32] I couldn't fit into you know

[00:19:35] 36 pages so I spread them out

[00:19:37] I had ideas for a bunch of different stories like I kind of wanted to do

[00:19:42] I just wanted to like the the the conflict them with them to get bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and more absurd

[00:19:51] my ideas for like, you know

[00:19:53] Like a blade writer blade runner type thing where it's years and years and years later and Bradley's kind of like

[00:20:00] I don't know like the toy maker guy in Blade Runner. I can't remember his name, but the weirdo and

[00:20:07] Yeah, and maybe yeah, just kind of keep going from there, but um

[00:20:12] Yeah, I don't know I with issue three

[00:20:16] Or would just how this

[00:20:18] One idea ended it kind of ended in such a perfect place

[00:20:23] I was almost I would almost be mad at myself if I continued the story more because

[00:20:29] Where everybody ends up is exactly where they should be and um, yeah

[00:20:34] I just that's probably the thing I'll be the most proud of when all this is said and done is how it ends

[00:20:39] I think it's a really awesome ending. So I just kind of wanted to leave it leave it there. Yeah

[00:20:46] Let it end

[00:20:48] All right, let's take a quick break

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[00:21:47] Let's get back to the show. I

[00:21:49] wanted to ask, you know does you know, this will be what your I mean at least

[00:21:55] Yes, fourth Kickstarter, I don't know if you've done any others but does yes is number four

[00:22:00] Okay, and I mean I know at least when we did the written interview

[00:22:04] I think you were I don't know if you're still doing it

[00:22:07] I think you are working in marketing for the university

[00:22:11] so does

[00:22:12] Does running a Kickstarter get any easier with with the number that you do or is it always?

[00:22:20] Bill kind of a major effort. It's the hardest low stakes thing that I have ever done

[00:22:31] That's an interesting way of putting it

[00:22:32] Yeah, like you know, there's I have two children

[00:22:36] So like raising two children is probably harder than doing it is harder than doing a Kickstarter

[00:22:41] But you know, yeah, they're much higher like I'm a bad dad then my children grow up to be horrible people and

[00:22:49] You know

[00:22:50] Pause I don't know chaos and what have you but if I run a bad Kickstarter then, you know, it really happens

[00:22:57] I just don't get the money in I

[00:22:59] Look at the make the comic but yeah, it is it is

[00:23:03] Extremely hard, especially now with Twitter acts being I

[00:23:09] Don't know such dumpster fire

[00:23:11] Yeah, definitely

[00:23:12] felt the burn there

[00:23:15] Issue to like I had like some engagement like really really picked up off across Twitter

[00:23:21] But with everyday fears like I like fell off a cliff like I just got no pick up there

[00:23:29] So yeah, it's it's it's a slog. It's like every day all day

[00:23:34] You gotta keep picking away at it going doing, you know interviews

[00:23:38] I was seen on social media wherever you can

[00:23:44] Yeah, it seems that way

[00:23:47] Yeah, it seems that way with with Twitter, you know

[00:23:51] Not not not getting as much

[00:23:54] Engagement it seems to be happening to everyone and it's interesting to see creators turning to you know other forms of social media

[00:24:01] whether or not it's

[00:24:03] Tiktok or or one of the others or you know

[00:24:08] Trying to build their newsletter. It's it's been an interesting time to kind of see

[00:24:14] Creators having to pivot and you know what that looks like because yeah, it's a good point

[00:24:19] Yeah, yeah, like I've really been trying to build up like a newsletter

[00:24:23] Since issue two and with everyday fears and like build up that up. I'm really bad at it

[00:24:28] I'm not good at like being consistent with when I send it out

[00:24:31] I kind of send it out when I remember or when like I need to when there's a campaign going but um

[00:24:36] Yeah, that's definitely I think

[00:24:40] I

[00:24:41] Know the most return or like the most engagement you're gonna get these days. Yeah, it's building like that audience through

[00:24:49] emails, I think and even in marketing like

[00:24:53] Emails is like the best thing the best

[00:24:56] way method you have of like

[00:24:59] Communicating with your customers and we're gonna get the most returns from that so it's

[00:25:04] Extremely important to kind of build up your audience through that. Yeah. Yeah

[00:25:07] I mean it's got a media. It's got to be tough in terms of you know, trying to do that and trying to market and

[00:25:13] Through social media through went with Twitter and then you know having to do

[00:25:19] podcasts like this and and

[00:25:21] Do you this is fun? So this is a nice part that this

[00:25:25] The goal of social media and just slogging through like yeah, oh my god. I've got no backers today

[00:25:31] That's that's the hard stuff. Oh, I bet I mean do you like talking about the comic talking about yourself?

[00:25:36] Does that come naturally, you know for you?

[00:25:42] It's definitely a skill I've had to like build over the years. Yeah

[00:25:47] Yeah, like I'm not the most social dude. I'm not like a huge talker. I'm pretty shy and reserved so I kind of have to like

[00:25:54] Like on something in my brain where I'm a little more personable and like to talk about myself and kind of

[00:26:02] You know to my own horn, I don't usually do that at all

[00:26:05] I'm very like dismissive of my of myself and my work and I kind of shy away from it

[00:26:10] Yeah, when I come on podcasts like you know, you got to turn it on and dance. Yeah, yeah

[00:26:15] Definitely, you got it. You got to be a showman

[00:26:19] So when you were you know thinking about turning or having this story

[00:26:24] Either it's like a short film or as a play

[00:26:27] Did you do theater that way?

[00:26:29] On stage ever or was it always just something you were interested in in terms of?

[00:26:36] University or you know

[00:26:39] Yeah, yeah, like I kind of made a run of being an actor and

[00:26:44] like I've

[00:26:46] In the high school. I went to an art school here in Toronto. It was a Catholic art school. So okay, I went to

[00:26:54] The theater program there. So I was like in all throughout high school. I was doing theater

[00:26:58] And for whatever reason I kind of like that into it anymore and I kind of wanted to go into filmmaking

[00:27:06] so I made like a bunch of like my short films in in high school and university and then

[00:27:13] Whatever reason I kind of weaned back into acting by the end of university. So

[00:27:18] Yeah, I did like a bunch of plays in university like some amateur theater in Toronto

[00:27:24] I did I had like an agent for a little while so I went to like kind of auditions for

[00:27:31] for commercials plays

[00:27:33] Not really a couple of TV shows

[00:27:36] So yeah, I could add a few cool gigs. Yeah

[00:27:41] Yeah, but again like that's that was

[00:27:44] That was

[00:27:45] Again a slog

[00:27:47] I just didn't have the drive for it

[00:27:50] Yeah, my one kind of cool story I got from my acting days is I did this like PSA

[00:27:59] With this

[00:28:01] organization called the Ontario LUN Association

[00:28:05] And they were doing this PSA promoting breathing and how important breathing is

[00:28:10] So they kind of did this like thing where it's like a focus group where people are going in and talking about

[00:28:16] How awesome it is to breathe?

[00:28:20] And so like the the ad itself was kind of

[00:28:24] Not great and I you know went on YouTube and got like 12 views

[00:28:28] But the person that I acted with was to me Lou

[00:28:33] Now way before saying Chi and way before Kim's convenience

[00:28:37] This was like one of the first things he ever did when he was like an up-and-coming struggling actor

[00:28:42] So now it's kind of like looking back like I

[00:28:46] Yeah, when I saw like an ad for Kim's convenience like the thing he did kind of that made him like you know

[00:28:52] His first big break. Yeah, I saw that I was like, oh wow

[00:28:56] I acted with that guy and then when I saw him like getting announced for saying she is like whoa

[00:29:01] With a famous person. Yeah, I don't want to PSA about breathing

[00:29:06] Yeah, it's still just has like 34 views on

[00:29:10] YouTube

[00:29:11] Nobody's discovered it yet. It's just like this weird hidden gem

[00:29:15] Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, there has to there there has to be an audience for that now though

[00:29:20] You know, yeah

[00:29:21] Maybe it might be one day. It'll get discovered and it'll go viral and I'll have my

[00:29:27] 30 seconds of fame. Yeah, you'll be able to say that's me

[00:29:30] Hopefully I'll have a kickstarter going on at that point where I can like plug in

[00:29:33] Yeah, you have you have to have some type of like cross promotion

[00:29:39] To make it work. Um

[00:29:42] Oh, that's interesting. I mean did you um, I mean

[00:29:46] Auditioning and wanting to be an actor like is a slog like so many actors say the one the key is persistence

[00:29:50] Like you kind of have to you know, keep that drive. That's what I did

[00:29:55] Yeah, it's hard

[00:29:56] You know to to have to do that and you know face the

[00:30:02] Rejection of it, you know that that comes with anything. I mean comics has a lot of that in it too though

[00:30:09] You know, you know, I've I've really gotten used to rejection

[00:30:11] I've had I've had I don't know 20 years of a rejection experience

[00:30:16] So that's kind of all calloused over now like being in the arts and

[00:30:21] Or yes, so it was I don't know a teenager doing acting and filmmaking and comics and writing and yeah

[00:30:28] I've gotten my fair share of rejection. So

[00:30:31] Yeah at this point it doesn't hurt. It doesn't sting as much like a tiny little bit but I

[00:30:39] Get over it

[00:30:40] That that part of my soul has been very calloused over

[00:30:44] Well, I guess that's good, you know, but you keep doing it you keep making stuff. So yeah, totally

[00:30:51] Yeah, I mean like the persistence thing. Yeah

[00:30:55] It was just like especially I don't drive so

[00:30:58] You know, I was working like a job at a bookstore where I worked overnight

[00:31:03] Though I'd work from like 10 p.m. Get home at 6 a.m

[00:31:07] Like go into bed and then I get like this message from my age and being like, hey, you got an addition and you know

[00:31:12] For p.m. This afternoon. I'd be like, oh, I just want to sleep. So

[00:31:17] You know, yeah, that's not the good mind

[00:31:19] That's not a great mindset if you want to kind of go into acting again

[00:31:23] Be like ready to go whenever

[00:31:25] Yeah

[00:31:26] So yeah, that's why writing is great because like I can just do it all from home

[00:31:30] I don't have to leave I can do it in my pajamas. I don't have to leave the house and I can just

[00:31:35] Write all my my heart content. That's

[00:31:38] That's the best part of being a writer

[00:31:41] Yeah, what was the with the house? Well, yeah, I mean that is the nice you can do it like

[00:31:45] Do it from the house you could do it from anywhere

[00:31:50] So when you did uh, you know every day fears which was kind of like a bunch of short stories

[00:31:55] Some of which I think had been in anthologies before. Um, was that like a a planned kind of break between

[00:32:02] two and three of um

[00:32:05] Of this comic or was that or you just thought oh, I have all these stories together. Let me

[00:32:10] You know, let me do something with them

[00:32:12] Uh, yeah, a bit of both. Yeah, I always kind of wanted to

[00:32:17] um

[00:32:19] Put all those stories together. I kind of like discovered

[00:32:22] Like after the fact that all these uh stories I did for anthologies kind of were thematically similar or it's kind of like a horror thing but

[00:32:32] more slice of life kind of like down to earth

[00:32:35] um

[00:32:36] Stories with with these monsters. Um, yeah, and yeah, like a bunch were

[00:32:42] Just digital only so I think two of them were actually printed

[00:32:45] And two of them were were not printed. So

[00:32:50] There's kind of a part of me that wanted to see those two stories

[00:32:53] Excuse me print it. Yeah, one of them was like my first comic and the artist I worked with was absolutely

[00:32:59] Freaking amazing. His name is Brandon Tobin. So

[00:33:03] Kind of yeah, I just really wanted to see that one printed

[00:33:05] so that was kind of the incentive to um do that

[00:33:08] and there were two stories that I

[00:33:12] Uh, kind of pitched to an anthology that were rejected

[00:33:15] Um, but like I really really liked them. So I didn't want to let them go

[00:33:19] So this was kind of like a and again, they're like thematically similar as monster

[00:33:23] Monster horror slice of life stuff. So yeah, I kind of gave me incentive to um

[00:33:28] Write them and produce them and kind of yeah put them in the anthology

[00:33:32] So and yeah, I did want like a break

[00:33:35] Do something a little bit different. I vainly thought that I could like

[00:33:39] Maybe raise a little bit money from everyday fears and they can go

[00:33:43] Some of it like the extra that I raised could go towards

[00:33:47] um

[00:33:49] towards id10t air issue three, but you know

[00:33:52] The the costs soon ballooned and ballooned and

[00:33:57] The Kickstarter campaign really struggled. So there was uh nothing left over for issue three, but um, that's okay

[00:34:05] I I still scrape together the money. Yeah, well, yeah, and you have the you have the Kickstarter now

[00:34:10] I mean, I really liked everyday fears. I like

[00:34:13] Right off the top. I thought it was great starting with that daddy damnedest one which if any listeners aren't, you know

[00:34:20] Weren't familiar with it. The first story is like a

[00:34:23] a girl woman

[00:34:27] Summons a demon

[00:34:29] in order to

[00:34:30] To tell the demon about the uh, they're their uh, their relationship with the demon is unaware and uh, yeah

[00:34:36] It is

[00:34:37] Just very funny. Um, very unexpected and I really like the build up to it. But um, yeah, I that was

[00:34:45] That that was one of my favorites. Um, I thought it was really smart

[00:34:50] um

[00:34:50] Starting it off there and I actually I was so like storage crusades had a really good fun

[00:34:58] Tales from the Crip ec comic sense of humor to it

[00:35:02] Yeah, yeah, that was for a um

[00:35:06] It's called the 10k

[00:35:09] The the comic contest that you know, you have like a week to create a comic the platform comics 10k challenge

[00:35:16] Yes, that one. Yeah. Yeah, I did that with a tavio. So our artist of id 10c error during the pandemic

[00:35:24] um

[00:35:25] Yeah, that was a ton of fun. Um, so yeah, that was another one that didn't get printed and when I first submitted it

[00:35:31] It was like, uh, it was not in color

[00:35:34] um, the lettering was what was different. So

[00:35:38] Yeah, I really wanted to kind of like spruce it up a little bit like add color and get a different letter on it

[00:35:45] um

[00:35:46] And yeah, so

[00:35:49] so my my wife is

[00:35:52] Um, also a writer she's been writing like her novel for the past

[00:35:56] I don't know 15 years like ever since I've known her

[00:35:59] She's very very very picky like she's not the type but that'll be like, oh, this is amazing

[00:36:03] And just say nice sweet things just because you know, we're together right she's pretty critical

[00:36:09] Uh, so when she read that one story, she said to me like this is the best thing you've ever written

[00:36:14] I was like

[00:36:16] Oh

[00:36:17] And and you know, she actually means it

[00:36:20] Yes. Yeah, because she she would she would never say that unless she meant it. Yeah

[00:36:25] Oh, that's really honest. So yeah that

[00:36:29] That's the kind of sentimental value that one story holds with me. Yeah, that she really liked it. So yeah

[00:36:36] Do you um, do you have her or ask her to read?

[00:36:39] like

[00:36:40] Some of your other stuff or are there things like you don't want her brutally honest opinion because you know, sure give it to you

[00:36:48] Yeah, um

[00:36:50] Yeah, some yeah, sometimes kind of hard to pin her down

[00:36:54] To to get her to read things. Okay. It's like her her novel so she's from Quebec. So she speaks french. So her novel is

[00:37:02] um in

[00:37:04] In french, so I've not really been able to read it. So there's that kind of like tension between us like

[00:37:10] You've never read my stuff. Well, why should I read your stuff?

[00:37:13] Or why should I help critique you your stuff again?

[00:37:15] With mine it's like, okay, but she she still does

[00:37:19] um

[00:37:19] And yeah, yeah, she's she always has like

[00:37:22] good story insights and

[00:37:25] Really kind of picks things apart and questions things

[00:37:28] And will make me think like oh, yeah, like uh, yeah, I guess I gotta need to go back to the drawing board on that

[00:37:34] So yeah, it's good. It's definitely good to have around somebody who's going to be like, you know

[00:37:39] You really dig in and not just kind of ladder you right

[00:37:44] Like you can't be precious with your writing then, you know, because you know that someone's going to give you

[00:37:50] Someone whose opinion that you value is going to tell you, you know, what they really think so

[00:37:54] Yeah, I mean that come back to the rejection thing like that that callous part of my soul like hearing criticisms

[00:38:01] um

[00:38:03] Like that, um and not taking it personally. I don't know that's always I think I don't know that comes from rejection and criticisms

[00:38:11] And it's a very good, um

[00:38:13] I don't know attribute you need as a writer to kind of

[00:38:16] Yeah

[00:38:17] Hear where your story doesn't work and you know to accept that and think about it. Um

[00:38:23] I don't know who said it but

[00:38:25] Somebody said like, you know when somebody reads your script

[00:38:29] um

[00:38:30] And they'll say like they're always right when they say where something doesn't work

[00:38:35] But usually they're always wrong when they say how to fix it

[00:38:39] um

[00:38:40] So yeah, that's I guess like something for any new writers. You should always keep in mind like

[00:38:45] Yeah, I've heard that something. Yeah, I've heard that before

[00:38:48] But it is good advice if if if you know a reader reads it and tells you that something's not working for them pay attention to it

[00:38:55] but

[00:38:56] Don't don't pay attention to you know how to fix it. That's

[00:39:00] Kind of your your your mess, you know to deal with

[00:39:05] Yeah, it might not be right like always people. Yeah, people might give you suggestions

[00:39:08] You're like, no, that's not it

[00:39:10] But you know, I think I see where where your point's coming from and I know there's a problem there

[00:39:15] But yeah, I think there's I have this other idea of how I can fix it and it's gonna pile together and blah blah blah

[00:39:22] You mentioned, you know when you talk about id 10 tiara and say that like you look at it as a comedy

[00:39:27] Where where do you get your like sense of humor and comedic influences from?

[00:39:35] Um, I think there's like a lot of Homer Simpson and Bradley

[00:39:40] And okay into here. Yeah. Yeah

[00:39:43] Yeah, just like yeah a complete over the top

[00:39:47] Kind of buffoon

[00:39:49] Um clown who's an idiot and yeah, just this

[00:39:53] He gets hurt a lot. Um

[00:39:56] in

[00:39:57] You know, he almost dies an issue one by getting like asphyxiated. He gets punched out. He gets

[00:40:03] What happens in issue two like he gets his foot stubbed?

[00:40:08] Something else brutal happens to him. I think I can't remember now

[00:40:12] Um, but yeah, just I just thinks it's funny seeing him get hurt

[00:40:16] It's kind of like that Homer Simpson way like an issue three he gets hurt a lot

[00:40:19] Oh good. He's gonna really go through the ringer and issue three so

[00:40:22] Love it. Yeah, this kind of indestructible quality of him. I think is kind of really funny. Um

[00:40:29] Yeah, so

[00:40:30] Simpsons big one trying to think like I don't know

[00:40:34] even like

[00:40:36] um

[00:40:36] Brian crampston

[00:40:39] I think his best

[00:40:41] performance

[00:40:43] And it's not even close is

[00:40:46] Ms. Hal and Malcolm in the middle. He's phenomenal

[00:40:49] No, breaking back is good breaking back is good

[00:40:51] But like Hal is like a whole other league of amazing and even when I was acting like when I was doing comedy roles

[00:40:57] I was always just like channeling Brian crampston as Hal like in all my performance. Like I did hair

[00:41:04] Or not hair hair spray. Oh, okay in university and I played the dad like the

[00:41:10] practical

[00:41:11] joke shop dad of

[00:41:13] Right and Tracy Tracy term black. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, and like that performance is just like all Brian crampston that I was doing

[00:41:23] So, yeah, I was probably like channeling that and this as well just Bradley probably has like somehow

[00:41:29] Aspects of like again, it's funny money. He's like so over the top and

[00:41:34] Out there and it's always hilarious when he's getting hurt or you know when he's making his painting these

[00:41:41] Thank you balls on him and he gets covered in the

[00:41:43] All the pain and these like all that ridiculous stuff. That's one of the best episodes when he's wearing what is painting

[00:41:49] He's like masterpiece. Yeah the paints like that that come the thing and just

[00:41:55] Falls over he goes off because he's in the he's in the garage, right? They have him. He's in the garage doing it

[00:42:01] Yeah, like he's in the garage doing it like all we it's like the b-plot of that story. I think we like

[00:42:06] Doesn't quit his job

[00:42:07] but he kind of like takes a month off to like do this masterpiece that he's had in his head for his whole life and

[00:42:13] yeah, just like throwing paint at the walls for

[00:42:16] For days on end and then like so frustrated because it's not what he imagined

[00:42:20] And then he like picks up the paintbrush by the end of like those like two strokes

[00:42:24] Yeah, then everybody's like whoa

[00:42:27] And then the thing like kills off and yeah

[00:42:32] It is it's such a well that episode in and of itself like not just brian cranson's performance

[00:42:37] But that episode is so especially that b-plot is so well

[00:42:42] Constructed

[00:42:43] You know it has just the right mix of

[00:42:47] like dialogue and

[00:42:49] That like the storytelling in it the like the way it's shot. It's so well like put together in terms of a

[00:42:56] Like a sitcom episode

[00:42:58] Yeah, that was one of my favorite episodes

[00:43:00] Good one

[00:43:01] yeah

[00:43:02] I can watch mouth in the middle like in high school and

[00:43:06] Elementary school like I just watched it. I think like on saturdays or sundays or some day of the week

[00:43:12] Like on one of the canadian channels, right?

[00:43:14] Or just be like this block of mouth in the middle or go from like 3 p.m. To like, I don't know 6 p.m

[00:43:20] I just like

[00:43:21] Watch it. Yeah

[00:43:23] But yeah, I don't know I could watch that forever that show. Yeah, we bet

[00:43:27] I

[00:43:28] Yeah, I haven't seen all of it, but there are a couple of episodes in particular that I really

[00:43:34] That I really love we've now turned this into I love when I my I turn my podcast into other podcasts

[00:43:39] But this is yeah, we gotta start the middle

[00:43:42] The Malcolm in the middle cast my episode podcast

[00:43:45] My one is when francis is being hazed at school and nothing bothers him

[00:43:51] And it's because he says of because of his mother and then by the end of the episode they have a picture of his

[00:43:57] What is it jane kasmarik?

[00:43:59] They have a picture of of the mom there and they're like telling the new

[00:44:04] Pledges or recruits or whatever it is like they're saying mom stuff like you're not going to be good enough. I'm disappointed

[00:44:10] Yeah, I don't I don't think there's there's hard there

[00:44:13] There haven't been too many like television characters that reminded me of of my mother until that episode

[00:44:22] Yeah, yeah, my mom was the exact opposite like she spoiled me wrong. Yeah

[00:44:29] Oh, yeah, I can't relate but

[00:44:31] But yeah, that was another I guess I thought I can't relate. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's you know, I mean

[00:44:39] We stand we stand up to bullying well, I guess

[00:44:42] Yeah, I crumble

[00:44:44] I crumble against bullies

[00:44:47] Oh, well

[00:44:49] I'm sure that's not true. But you know if it is it's okay. Well, okay. Yeah, we'll take care of them

[00:44:55] We'll get those bullies. I got my wife to back me up. Yeah, and she speaks French. She'll take them on

[00:44:59] Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know brawler. Yeah, absolutely. Yep

[00:45:04] um, so in terms of let just to turn back to

[00:45:09] ID 10 t r issue number three the conclusion

[00:45:13] Kickstarter goes live august 6

[00:45:16] and uh, how long is the campaign run?

[00:45:19] Good question. Uh, august 6 so

[00:45:23] Uh, it'll run for about a month. So like first week of september

[00:45:27] All right, I usually end my campaigns on a thursday night. I don't know if I find like that that

[00:45:33] always

[00:45:34] Help me so

[00:45:36] First let's say what's the date? I don't know first thursday of september

[00:45:41] Okay

[00:45:42] All right, it'll be done. So you got a month

[00:45:46] and so

[00:45:47] we have

[00:45:48] The the continuing adventures of bradley and the robot more bradley getting hurt and

[00:45:55] And more burpo

[00:45:57] A lot more burpo burpo has a lot to do in this issue. He's kind of got like this mission impossible

[00:46:04] Thing to do. Yeah, he takes center stage for sure. Oh, I love that. Yeah. Um, yeah, I can't wait to see uh

[00:46:12] you know

[00:46:14] Where we end up in in issue three because yeah issue two ends in a very very interesting place

[00:46:21] I love that final page

[00:46:23] So i'm very excited to see

[00:46:25] Oh, thanks. Yeah, I

[00:46:26] I'm waiting up

[00:46:27] Yeah, I didn't really know where it was going to go. I kind of had that idea for the final page and

[00:46:33] Didn't really know where it's going to go next

[00:46:35] So I kind of had to figure it out for issue three and I don't know. I think I did a good job

[00:46:40] I think it leads to some interesting places

[00:46:42] Nice, uh, so yeah

[00:46:45] It'll be fun

[00:46:46] Do you like the crazier than the other two?

[00:46:49] Well, good. No, I mean it's it's it I just it continues to ramp up from one to two and I think that little bit of

[00:46:56] You know absurdity in it

[00:46:57] Um is what makes it you know fun to read and interesting and and plus the rest of the creative team

[00:47:03] It looks great the colors pop

[00:47:06] um, you know and and frank's lettering is phenomenal all the

[00:47:10] Sound effects are fantastic. So yeah, it's a really great great creative team

[00:47:16] So that's going to be uh, you know pretty exciting. Um, do you like the challenge if you write yourself into a corner a little bit?

[00:47:24] Or do you like curse yourself like ah shit?

[00:47:28] um

[00:47:29] A little bit of oh it's probably more of the ah shit. Um

[00:47:34] Yeah, there for issue two there's two ways it was going to end and I kind of didn't know which

[00:47:38] When I was going to choose so I kind of just picked the lane and

[00:47:42] Kind of had to go from there like I like it was yeah, it wasn't totally like

[00:47:48] Without a roadmap like I knew

[00:47:50] the basic beats of where issue three was going but um that particular kind of plot

[00:47:55] I wasn't really sure kind of new but um

[00:48:00] Yeah, I was being a little little dangerous there

[00:48:02] Usually I kind of like to keep it safe and like no exactly what's what i'm doing and what's going on

[00:48:09] But yeah, kind of taking a walk on the wild side there, but I think I pulled it off. All right

[00:48:14] We're good. Yeah, I can't wait to read it and um listeners make sure you check it out

[00:48:19] There'll be a link in the show notes to the Kickstarter

[00:48:22] So uh, you can head over there to check out

[00:48:25] ID 10 error three

[00:48:28] And and back it while the campaign's running and you know make sure you get if you haven't had a chance yet

[00:48:33] And I'm sure you have an opportunity to pick out the other issues and um

[00:48:36] Is there any work like folks can get everyday fears if they wanted to look at it or you haven't

[00:48:42] Figure that out yet. Um, yeah, so there it'll be an add-on on this campaign. Oh nice. Awesome. Yeah

[00:48:48] So yeah, if you want to pick up a copy there's I got a bunch of them. So um

[00:48:52] Yeah, there'll be an add-on uh for this. Oh, and I should also mention that um for the first time

[00:48:58] I'll be doing a variant cover

[00:49:00] Uh for ID 10 T error. So um artist named john burg

[00:49:05] Uh, who's from the GTA greater toronto area for those not toronto. Um, yeah, he his work is

[00:49:14] Amazing and he was one of the artists in everyday fears. He did the frankenstein story. So he made a really cool cover

[00:49:22] Um, yeah, and I think you'll want to check it out. Oh fantastic. Oh, that's awesome. I love that. Um,

[00:49:28] Great. Well listeners be sure to check it out and um

[00:49:33] Uh shout out to my brother bobby. I can't forget him. He's the cryptic creator corners number one most dedicated fan

[00:49:39] My brother bobby listens to all my episodes. So thanks bomb for listening and um matt

[00:49:44] I really appreciate you coming on to talk uh to talk comics with me. This has been great

[00:49:49] That's yeah, thank you for having me on and

[00:49:51] It was a it was fun talking about mouth. I'm in the middle. Yeah, uh anytime anytime

[00:49:57] I'll talk about brian cranston's performance in malcom in the middle. Um, but listeners. Thank you very much for listening be sure to check out

[00:50:03] Uh id 10 t error issue number three. Uh, thank you again for listening and um, let me know if you check it out

[00:50:10] If you back it whatever comics you're reading, let's talk about it and I'll see you next time. Thanks a lot

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[00:51:07] We know that health is our greatest wealth and we will be discussing all aspects of natural healing

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[00:51:32] And remember health is your greatest wealth